Paradise flycatchers (1 Viewer)

[Markus Lagerqvist]

Findings in short:

Madagascar Paradise Flycatcher Terpsiphone mutata should be treated as 3 species:

T. vulpina (incl. voeltzkowiana) from Anjouan & Moheli respectively (I think vulpina has priority)
T. mutata (incl. singetra & pretiosa) from Madagascar and Mayotte
T. comorensis from Grand Comoro

A cuople of nice airmchair ticks there They don't suggest a common name for the Anjouan/Mohéli species do they?

Must be the first bird species endemic to these two islands combined? Although there is an example among the mammals - Livingstone’s Fruit Bat!

 

[Jacana]

A cuople of nice airmchair ticks there They don't suggest a common name for the Anjouan/Mohéli species do they?

Must be the first bird species endemic to these two islands combined? Although there is an example among the mammals - Livingstone’s Fruit Bat!

They do not. They don't explicitly say these should be split, rather that, as Richard has quoted, "We identify six ESUs worthy of management as if they were separate species."

If it was up to me I'd be tempted to call them 'Pale Paradise Flycatcher'. Going on the illustration in the paper they seem to be paler than the others and I can't think of a convenient geographical term considering two other 'species' also are on the Comoros...

 

[Richard Klim]

Bristol et al pdf

Bristol, Fabre, Irestedt, Jønsson, Shah, Tatayah, Warren & Groombridge (in press). Molecular phylogeny of the Indian Ocean Terpsiphone paradise flycatchers: undetected evolutionary diversity revealed amongst island populations. Mol Phylogenet Evol. [abstract]

Bristol et al (in press). [pdf]

 

[Richard Klim]

Birdwatch

Bristol, Fabre, Irestedt, Jønsson, Shah, Tatayah, Warren & Groombridge (in press). Molecular phylogeny of the Indian Ocean Terpsiphone paradise flycatchers: undetected evolutionary diversity revealed amongst island populations. Mol Phylogenet Evol. [abstract]

David Callahan, Birdwatch Listcheck, 27 Mar 2013: Ocean flycatcher paradise.

 

[Richard Klim]

Seychelles Paradise Flycatcher

Bristol, Tucker, Dawson, Horsburgh, Prys-Jones, Frantz, Krupa, Shah, Burke & Groombridge (in press). Comparison of historical bottleneck effects and genetic consequences of re-introduction in a critically endangered island passerine. Mol Ecol. [abstract] [supp info]

BirdLife Species factsheet.

 

[Richard Klim]

Andersen et al

Andersen, Hosner, Filardi & Moyle (in press). Phylogeny of the monarch flycatchers reveals extensive paraphyly and novel relationships within a major Australo-Pacific radiation. Mol Phylogenet Evol. [abstract]

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

Sounds interesting! Anyone with access who can send a copy?

 

[Richard Klim]

Andersen et al 2015 pdf

Andersen, Hosner, Filardi & Moyle (in press). Phylogeny of the monarch flycatchers reveals extensive paraphyly and novel relationships within a major Australo-Pacific radiation. Mol Phylogenet Evol. [abstract]

Andersen et al 2015. Mol Phylogenet Evol 83: 118–136. [pdf]

 

[Peter Kovalik]

Terpsiphone incei, T. affinis

Andersen et al 2015. Mol Phylogenet Evol 83: 118–136. [pdf]

IOC Update Diary
Sept 20 Accept Asian Paradise Flycatcher splits (Amur, Blyth’s/Oriental)
Sept 20 Change English name of Asian Paradise Flycatcher to Indian Paradise Flycatcher

 

[Peter Kovalik]

Soo Hyung Eo & Junghwa An, 2016. Mitochondrial genome sequence of black paradise flycatcher (Aves: Monarchidae) and its phylogenetic position. Mitochondrial DNA Part B: Resources, 1:1, 454-455.
DOI: 10.1080/23802359.2016.1181996.

[pdf]

 

[Peter Kovalik]

Myiagra castaneigularis

Andersen, Hosner, Filardi & Moyle (in press). Phylogeny of the monarch flycatchers reveals extensive paraphyly and novel relationships within a major Australo-Pacific radiation. Mol Phylogenet Evol. [abstract]

IOC Updates Diary Aug 23
Post proposed split of Chestnut-throated Flycatcher on Updates/PS

Myiagra castaneigularis is recognized by TiF 3.06 and The eBird/Clements v2016.

 

[Peter Kovalik]

IOC Updates Diary Aug 23
Post proposed split of Chestnut-throated Flycatcher on Updates/PS

Myiagra castaneigularis is recognized by TiF 3.06 and The eBird/Clements v2016.

IOC Updates Diary Oct 6

Accept Chestnut-throated Flycatcher

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

Andersen et al

Andersen, Hosner, Filardi & Moyle (in press). Phylogeny of the monarch flycatchers reveals extensive paraphyly and novel relationships within a major Australo-Pacific radiation. Mol Phylogenet Evol. [abstract]

Do you think the following subspecies could be raised to species rank ? :

Mayrornis (lessoni) orientalis

Monarcha (cinerascens) nigrirostris/perpallidus or impediens

Symposiachrus (browni) nigrotectus/ganongae

Myiagra (ferrocyanea) feminina

Myiagra (alecto) chalybeocephala (including wardelli and melvillensis)

Arses (telescopthalmus) harterti/lauterbachi

Arses (telescopthalmus) batantae

 

[Xenospiza]

Do you think the following subspecies could be raised to species rank ? :

Mayrornis (lessoni) orientalis

Monarcha (cinerascens) nigrirostris/perpallidus or impediens

Symposiachrus (browni) nigrotectus/ganongae

Myiagra (ferrocyanea) feminina

Myiagra (alecto) chalybeocephala (including wardelli and melvillensis)

Arses (telescopthalmus) harterti/lauterbachi / Arses (telescopthalmus) batantae

Andersen et al. are very cautious with respect to splitting anything. The Mayrornis case is definitely intriguing and with some back up by morphology and calls could well work!
I found a place where the article can be read: Andersen et al. - 2015 - Phylogeny of the monarch flycatchers reveals exten.pdf

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

Andersen et al. are very cautious with respect to splitting anything. The Mayrornis case is definitely intriguing and with some back up by morphology and calls could well work!
I found a place where the article can be read: Andersen et al. - 2015 - Phylogeny of the monarch flycatchers reveals exten.pdf

There are many polyphyletic species but, as usual, I don't know their support rates

 

[Acanthis]

Some very intriguing relationships in that paper.
Thanks for posting

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

Some very intriguing relationships in that paper.
Thanks for posting

It's an old paper x)

 

[Acanthis]

It's an old paper x)

So I see but it's one I missed and adds information useful with my current fascination with the Indo-Pacific avifauna 😊