Latest IOC Diary Updates (4 Viewers)

[aegithalos]

Can someone please tell me what the current extant species total is? Is it now 11,001?

Yes. Updates – IOC World Bird List

Keith

 

[Steve Lister]

11,001 if you accept that Ivory-billed and Imperial Woodpeckers, and Slender-billed Curlew, still exist.

So probably 10,998 really.

 

[Andy Adcock]

11,001 if you accept that Ivory-billed and Imperial Woodpeckers, and Slender-billed Curlew, still exist.

So probably 10,998 really.

You left out Bachman's Warbler.......

 

[Andy Adcock]

So my wife celebrated WP bird #600 in March - Dusky Thrush twitch in Berlin. Then she promptly un-celebrated when we found out that our "Gyrfalcon" from Norway is a Peregrine (not sure how that happened) and now she can re-celebrate again with the Chaffinches! Well, it was close, they looked like they are gonna take away the Shearwaters to even it out. Maybe they will do that soon and she will have another chance at 600 later

Probably gonna lose the Redpolls too.

 

[Steve Lister]

Is the transition to 13.2 finished yet? Not clear from the website, and no diary entries since July 22nd.

 

[Mysticete]

Is the transition to 13.2 finished yet? Not clear from the website, and no diary entries since July 22nd.

I would imagine it has to be. At the very least the files I have looked at seem updated?

Hopefully this generates a response!

 

[DDonsker]

I would imagine it has to be. At the very least the files I have looked at seem updated?

Hopefully this generates a response!

It did generate a response!

All of the 13.2 speadsheets have long been completed and their inks posted. The transition to 13.2 isn't "officially" completed yet because the BOW pages have yet to be created and placed on the website. Other more urgent issues, not related to the IOC WBL, have consumed any of the editors' available time for this final 13.2 project. These conflicts should begin to settle down in mid-September.

Apologies for the recent "radio silence".

David

 

[Swindon Addick]

September 19 Multilingual list upgraded to include revised Dutch, Swedish, Portuguese and Chinese names.

 

[Jacana]

Sep 26 Accept splits of Yellow-billed Egret and Plumed Egret from Intermediate (Medium) Egret.

I hope that "Medium" is just a placeholder until something better comes along... surely there's a better name out there for it!

Another English name update that may be commented on:

Change English name of widespread Diomedea exulans from Wandering Albatross to Snowy Albatross to avoid confusion with the other three species formerly included in the "Wandering Albatross" complex.

 

[dnsallen]

I hope that "Medium" is just a placeholder until something better comes along... surely there's a better name out there for it!

Another English name update that may be commented on:

Average Egret? Middling Egret? Normal Egret? I wonder what the best worst is?

 

[Mysticete]

IIRC, the Intermediate Egret split was telegraphed by the upcoming Clements update, which listed them as a split. Might see a few others generated from that update in the upcoming weeks

 

[Jacana]

Average Egret? Middling Egret? Normal Egret? I wonder what the best worst is?

I don't know. All three names are a bit substandard really. All Egrets develop "plumes" to some extent in the breeding season. Several egrets have "yellow bills". A "medium" is just not great. That being said, I can't think of something more appropriate other than maybe "African/Oriental/Australian Egret", all of which are unimaginative and not without their own problems.

 

[DMW]

Average Egret? Middling Egret? Normal Egret? I wonder what the best worst is?

It's always been Indeterminate Egret for me.

 

[Xenospiza]

I find the Mesophoyx group the least attractive egrets, with their ungainly proportions, so an unattractive name fits.
If the deal is closed on Yellow-billed and Plumed, why not keep "Intermediate" (which I quite like) too.
"Middle Egret" (as in Great, Middle, Little) would also be fine for me — certainly better than "Medium".

 

[opisska]

So Yellow-billed ranges in Africa, Intermediate in Eurasia, right? That gains us a species!

More importantly - are they readily IDed? What goes for WP records? Yellow-billed on Cape Verde and Canaries - but what about middle east? Looks halfway between ranges ...

 

[Jacana]

So Yellow-billed ranges in Africa, Intermediate in Eurasia, right? That gains us a species!

More importantly - are they readily IDed? What goes for WP records? Yellow-billed on Cape Verde and Canaries - but what about middle east? Looks halfway between ranges ...

Correct. I'm not certain which species turns up on the Arabian peninsula. I would guess mostly intermedia (Medium), as I think they might be more migratory. But I wouldn't be surprised if there are some brachyrhyncha (Yellow-billed) records along the Red Sea Coast. I don't know how to reliably ID them outside the breeding season. I think there are some body-size differences, but how easy that is without a comparison in the field, I don't know.

More of a problem is figuring out who's who in Indonesia, where Plumed and Medium should overlap for at least part of the year.

 

[Jacana]

Sep 26 Post four-way split of Black-throated Trogon complex.

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

Sep 26 Post four-way split of Black-throated Trogon complex.

AS 14.1	Northern Black-throated Trogon	Trogon tenellus	(Amazonian) Black-throated Trogon	Trogon rufus	Northern Black-throated Trogon Trogon tenellus is split from T. rufus on the basis of deep genetic divergence combined with vocal and morphological differention (Dickens et al. 2021; SACC 921; WGAC). English name tentative.
AS 14.1	Choco Black-throated Trogon	Trogon cupreicauda	(Amazonian) Black-throated Trogon	Trogon rufus	Choco Black-throated Trogon Trogon cupreicauda is split from T. rufus on the basis of deep genetic divergence combined with vocal and morphological differention (Dickens et al. 2021; SACC 921; WGAC). English name tentative.
AS 14.1	Atlantic Black-throated Trogon	Trogon chrysochloros	(Amazonian) Black-throated Trogon	Trogon rufus	Atlantic Black-throated Trogon Trogon chrysochloros (including muriciensis) is split from T. rufus based on moderate genetic divergence combined with vocal and morphological differention (Dickens et al. 2021; SACC 921; WGAC). English name tentative.

 

[Snapdragyn]

I don't know. All three names are a bit substandard really.

I think you've hit on the perfect name - Substandard Egret.

But on a serious note, have it as 'Lesser Egret' in my own list.

 

[Jeff Hopkins]

I think you've hit on the perfect name - Substandard Egret.

But on a serious note, have it as 'Lesser Egret' in my own list.

How about Mediocre Egret?

FWIW, "Lesser" tends to be used for New World species.