Iceland Gull West Yorkshire (1 Viewer)

[loiner]

When I saw this bird this morning I assumed Iceland Gull but then noticed the darker (though still extremely pale) centres to the primaries. Is it just a darker than usual Iceland or is Kumlein's a possibility?

 

[Prestdj]

appears to be a 1st winter iceland gull

i photographed a similar bird many years ago

 

[lou salomon]

surely not a 1st winter with those pale eyes. as to kumlien's or not - you'd need better pics of the outer primaries and an open tail. structure with the somewhat square head and also the rel. large amount of black to bill in a 2nd cycle might suggest a possible kumlieni - but safe identification needs the mentioned feather parts to be assessed carefully.

 

[loiner]

A few more photos to see if they help.

 

[loiner]

Photos.

 

[AStevenson]

worth reading this link - Gull Research Organisation to get a better idea of variation.

 

[lou salomon]

an individual with rel. strong pattern and still rel. fresh feathers making that pattern visible. the only concern is the weirdly large bill and the angular head but it's not a Kumlien's Gull. Iris too pale, no contrast in outer primaries, wavy patternd tail and bicoloured bill.