Euphonia Canopy Lodge Panama (1 Viewer)

[49bentley]

Can someone differentiate pic 1-3 between female Thick-billed Euphonia and Yellow-crowned Euphonia. Both were present at Canopy Lodge in Panama is Sept.
Thanks
Chris

 

[njlarsen]

Might not be possible to get a firm id. I am leaning Yellow-crowned on 1 and 3 and thickbilled on the middle but with low confidence
Niels

 

[THE_FERN]

Might not be possible to get a firm id. I am leaning Yellow-crowned on 1 and 3 and thickbilled on the middle but with low confidence
Niels

Suspect these are all thick-billed. Compare with ebird/Macauley images of bill thickness to see why. We can't easily judge image 2, but I think it's more of the same. Also note that loral area of thick-billed is often pale/whitish as in image 1,3 here.

[Edit: loral area: perhaps also pic 2]

 

[49bentley]

Thanks Niels and The Fern.