A few from Lima, Peru (3 Viewers)

[Southern Viking]

Hi all, a few photos attached of some birds my Mum photographed on her phone on her first morning in Lima.

I'm pretty sure the dove is West Peruvian Dove?
The sparrow/bunting I'm not at all sure on.
The black bird I assume is some kind of cowbird... Bronzed Cowbird maybe? My Mum commented on it's kite-like (i.e. forked) tail, but I guess this is due to moult? I'm not sure if both black birds are the same bird.

Cheers for any help.

 

[Butty]

1. Rufous-collared sparrow.
2, 5. Shiny cowbird.
3-4. White-winged dove (when I was alive - west Peruvian dove seems to be a split).

 

[Southern Viking]

1. Rufous-collared sparrow.
2, 5. Shiny cowbird.
3-4. White-winged dove (when I was alive - west Peruvian dove seems to be a split).

Cheers for input Butty. How do you arrive at White-winged rather than West Peruvian Dove? My first thought was White-winged as I'd never heard of West Peruvian, but searches on google suggested the extent of blue around the eye, the lack of a black mark on the cheek, and the range were all better for the latter?

 

[THE_FERN]

Cheers for input Butty. How do you arrive at White-winged rather than West Peruvian Dove? My first thought was White-winged as I'd never heard of West Peruvian, but searches on google suggested the extent of blue around the eye, the lack of a black mark on the cheek, and the range were all better for the latter?

These 2 are a relatively recent split: "white-winged" used to cover both. The west coast birds are now west Peruvian dove

The bill on 5 is difficult to assess but may be better for scrub blackbird (longer, thinner, less like an equilateral triangle)

 

[Butty]

How do you arrive at White-winged rather than West Peruvian Dove?

I'm not sure I understand the question. Splits are normally merely geographical, so they're just an exercise in renaming the populations of different areas - hence (during the breeding season, and for sedentary birds at any time), the ID is decided by where it lives. Fern describes the specifics of this case above.

 

[Southern Viking]

I'm not sure I understand the question. Splits are normally merely geographical, so they're just an exercise in renaming the populations of different areas - hence (during the breeding season, and for sedentary birds at any time), the ID is decided by where it lives. Fern describes the specifics of this case above.

Wasn't sure whether you edited your post or if I'd missed the parenthesis after the dove ID, but yeah I get now it's a split of what used to be considered the same species.

Still waiting to hear back from my Mum about whether 5 is a different bird from 2. I'd thought the bill looked longer but wasn't easy to tell with the angle of 2

 

[Southern Viking]

Some more here from today...

1 and 4 Long-tailed Mockingbird? Not sure about the white tail tips on 4 though?
3 West Peruvian Dove again I presume
5 Tropical Mockingbird?
2 Scrub Blackbird or Unicoloured Blackbird?

 

[Butty]

I assume these are all taken in urban-ish Lima, in places visited by regular visitors - and are thus likely to be the common Lima species.
1, 4, 5. Long-tailed mockingbird (tropical mockingbird is hugely out of range).
2. As in 1st set of photos, shiny cowbird seems best (bill-shape/length). Scrub blackbird differs also in having markedly short primaries which doesn't seem to be the case here - and it seems it's much less of, or not, an urban bird. (Unicoloured blackbird is well out of range AFAIK.)
3. White-winged dove/west Peruvian dove. Blackish neck-patch.

 

[Southern Viking]

I assume these are all taken in urban-ish Lima, in places visited by regular visitors - and are thus likely to be the common Lima species.
1, 4, 5. Long-tailed mockingbird (tropical mockingbird is hugely out of range).
2. As in 1st set of photos, shiny cowbird seems best (bill-shape/length). Scrub blackbird differs also in having markedly short primaries which doesn't seem to be the case here - and it seems it's much less of, or not, an urban bird.
3. White-winged dove/west Peruvian dove. Blackish neck-patch. (Unicoloured blackbird is well out of range AFAIK.)

Thanks again Butty - and yes, all taken in a pretty touristy part of Lima

 

[Southern Viking]

More for general interest these ones, not any ID doubt, but Black Vultures (apparently of some cultural significance in Lima), and a Guayaquil Squirrel (according to Wiki they have a limited world distribution in SW Ecuador and NW Peru but are introduced in Lima).

 

[THE_FERN]

Thanks again Butty - and yes, all taken in a pretty touristy part of Lima

This "west peruvian dove" looks more like eared dove to me.

That also has a black neck patch but also has dark spots on the wing. I think we can see those in amongst the artifacts here. We can also see a hint of a dark line leading back from the eye (not always clear in this species). The WP dove's bare skin around the eye should be visible if present (even allowing fire photo quality), and some hint of the white wing (although possibly concealed, some hint is usually there). So suggest eared dove, the more common of the 2.

 

[THE_FERN]

2. As in 1st set of photos, shiny cowbird seems best (bill-shape/length). Scrub blackbird differs also in having markedly short primaries which doesn't seem to be the case here - and it seems it's much less of, or not, an urban bird. (Unicoloured blackbird is well out of range AFAIK.)

On this basis, we can infer the primaries fall short in one of the 2 original "shiny cowbird" pictures (5), further evidence it's actually scrub blackbird. In my peruvian experience scrub blackbird's actually a pretty common urban bird

 

[lockbreeze926]

When I visited Lima, Scrub Blackbird was very common in streets and parks, in highly-urban areas (I was mostly in Miraflores), as was W Peruvian Dove. In the interior, Eared Dove was much more likely, but not so in the city.

More surprising (to me) was the regular appearance of Harris's Hawk on office blocks, church roofs and the like amid the general urban clutter.

 

[THE_FERN]

When I visited Lima, Scrub Blackbird was very common in streets and parks, in highly-urban areas (I was mostly in Miraflores), as was W Peruvian Dove. In the interior, Eared Dove was much more likely, but not so in the city.

More surprising (to me) was the regular appearance of Harris's Hawk on office blocks, church roofs and the like amid the general urban clutter.

It was variable hawks for me. Everywhere.

Surprised we have not seen pics of black vermilion flycatchers yet

 

[Southern Viking]

Another dove photo I've been sent by my Mum. Pretty confident this is a male Croaking Ground Dove unless I've overlooked something.

 

[lockbreeze926]

That is a Croaking Ground Dove, yes.

 

[Southern Viking]

Among more photos of Croaking Ground Dove and lots of Black Vultures, I've been sent this one. Can it be ID'd from the photo? I think I've got it down to Tropical or White-throated Kingbird, and of the two I was going with Tropical because it doesn't seem to show a dark eye-stripe?

 

[Butty]

Such-looking birds in 'normal' places are generally tropical kingbird or cattle tyrant - and, for reasons I can't remember (bill-shape, white throat?), this one says tropical kingbird to me. (White-throated kingbird seems to be well out of range.)

 

[THE_FERN]

Among more photos of Croaking Ground Dove and lots of Black Vultures, I've been sent this one. Can it be ID'd from the photo? I think I've got it down to Tropical or White-throated Kingbird, and of the two I was going with Tropical because it doesn't seem to show a dark eye-stripe?

It's a tropical kingbird. Extent of white, head colour etc