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Bluetail/robin sort? India (1 Viewer)
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Andy Adcock
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Maybe a Shortwing?
I would say the tail is too long, as are the wings. The way it's pointing its wings downwards and cocking its tail reminds me of a Flycatcher. The throat is very white - could it be juvenile White-gorgeted? I can't find an image of one though.
Andy Adcock
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Possibly, top image here is not a million miles away?
WHITE-GORGETED FLYCATCHER
The White-gorgeted Flycatcher (Ficedula monileger) is a species of passerine bird in the Old World flycatcher family. It is found in Bangl...
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I'd say it's at least half a million miles away.
Paul Leader
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What date was the photo taken?
Hi Andy B,
Grimmet et al 'Birds of India' has an illustration of juvenile, and I attach it here (3b). (I also couldn't find one online; and I agree with Butty that the photo linked by Andy A is not a juvenile).
I think you are probably right, because it looks way closer in colouration and posture than anything else in the books - but, of course, my opinion in this region is not worth much.
If it's juvenile, I would say it's part-way to adult. It has lost the flecking on the head, and I think you can see the black border to the white throat-patch starting to appear, but it still has the dark streaking on the chest.
Anyway, I hope this helps; and if it doesn't, then apologies in advance.
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johnallcock
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My impression is a female Slaty-blue Flycatcher:
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ML547079451 Slaty-blue Flycatcher Macaulay Library
Macaulay Library ML547079451; © Ayuwat Jearwattanakanok; Chiang Mai, Thailand
ML541317861 Slaty-blue Flycatcher Macaulay Library
Macaulay Library ML541317861; © Bradley Hacker 🦜; Chiang Mai, Thailand
ML561035581 Slaty-blue Flycatcher Macaulay Library
Macaulay Library ML561035581; © Peter Ericsson; Chiang Mai, Thailand
Andy Adcock
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I don't recall stating that the image was of a juvenile, I was trying to illustrate the scalation which is not shown in any books I have.
Grahame Walbridge
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Surely a moulting juvenile John with that extensive black scaling/streaking to the underparts.
Grahame
johnallcock
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Personally I'm not confident about the age from these photos. I get the impression that the dark marks below are due to loose feathers on a fluffed-out bird revealing the bases of adjacent feathers, rather than an actual plumage pattern. I'd also expect to see paler speckling above on a juvenile flycatcher. But yes, it could be in post-juvenile moult.
Tiraya
San Diego CA
Ok, I'm glad this wasn't one of those embarrassingly easy IDs. Makes me feel a bit better!! It was in early April if that helps.
Interesting regarding slaty-blue, the images I looked at did not have a pale throat, or if they had colour, it was more brown there. I'm also possibly noticing that white-gorgeted has a shorter tail more like my bird, rather than longer? But the proportions seem to favour slaty-blue with a "smaller" head.
macaulaylibrary.org
Interesting regarding slaty-blue, the images I looked at did not have a pale throat, or if they had colour, it was more brown there. I'm also possibly noticing that white-gorgeted has a shorter tail more like my bird, rather than longer? But the proportions seem to favour slaty-blue with a "smaller" head.
ML148061281 - Slaty-blue Flycatcher - Macaulay Library
Macaulay Library ML148061281; © Shailesh Pinto; Chiang Mai, Thailand
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