Prestdj
its good to be back
very true but kens found a grey redwing so thats new, he will continue this for days and i thought i was was crap birderBoth images show perfectly typical nominate iliacus, the form which winters across most of the UK, underpart streaking is nowhere near strong enough + legs way too pale for coburni, absolutely nothing intermediate about either bird. And, no clinal variation mentioned in literature.
Grahame