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[Nickk]

Photos take in July. Penduline Tit on first 2 (with a Eurasian Tree Sparrow on the first pic)? Not sure which Wagtail but Wood Lark would be my guess for the last one

 

[CARERY]

All correct. It's a 1cy Yellow Wagtail...

 

[Butty]

Could you say (as Svensson doesn't) why it's not a white wagtail?

 

[CARERY]

The first wagtail: face pattern (e.g. dark lateral crown stripe) very un-white-wagtailish. The second with yellow vent...

 

[Butty]

face pattern . . . very un-white-wagtailish

If there is more than one specific it would be good to know it/them.

dark lateral crown stripe

Svensson shows this as a feature of juvenile white wagtail and as not being a feature of juvenile yellow wagtail.

yellow vent

Faint - and the whole photo has a yellowish cast.

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Hello Butty,
I agree with Roland:
the first has a pattern reminiscant of a Sedge Warbler (obvious supercilium and its
shape , solid dark ear-coverts and a contrasting crown)
This is a good head pattern für juvenile Yellow Wagtail and bad for a White wagtail, which has normally paler, ,hollow' ear-coverts, regular caramell or buffish or yellowish tinged.

The Second Bird hast just visible dark olive earth brown tinge top the solid dark ear-coverts. Yes, you are right about Colours in pictures, but the yellowish hues on the vent and in the wing in both birds are Right for Yellow Wagtail (hue, intensity and area).

I can Write more, of this is useful, I have looked at this ID Problem some Time ago.
I hope this is helpful despite in german: Club300 Germany

 

[Nickk]

Here are some more pics of the same bird

 

[Xelioszzapporro!]

That's blatantly a Sedge Warbler (Acrocephalus Schoenobaenus)

 

[Bewick]

That's blatantly a Sedge Warbler (Acrocephalus Schoenobaenus)

? There isn't any images of sedge warblers...

 

[Butty]

the first has a pattern . . .

Thanks for the details, Alex. It's a pity, then, that Svensson shows the solid/hollow ear-coverts and the dark on crown exactly the wrong way round for juveniles of these two species (edn 2; as a Sensible Android Person it'll be months before I see edn 3).

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Hello Xelioszzapporro,

Welcome to Birdforum!
Yes, its no Sedge Warbler, I just wanted to describe the resemblance of a juvenile Yellow wagtail head pattern to a Sedge Warbler, a jizz feature against White Wagtail
With non native speaker the usual excuse

 

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That's blatantly a Sedge Warbler (Acrocephalus Schoenobaenus)

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