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Anas sp. Portugal, Quinta do Lago 10th October (1 Viewer)
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Lappkrabben
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Looks much like a pintail to me and soemthing else considering the odd chest-barring
Actually, this is a female Cinnamon Teal (like this one).
Female Blue-winged has stronger face markings, including a dark eyestripe and obvious white eye-crescents, and has a less powerful, all-dark bill.
The long, Pintail-like rear end of this bird is also quite typical of Cinnamon.
Probably an escape, but you never know. There are lots of records on the east coast of North America.
Female Blue-winged has stronger face markings, including a dark eyestripe and obvious white eye-crescents, and has a less powerful, all-dark bill.
The long, Pintail-like rear end of this bird is also quite typical of Cinnamon.
Probably an escape, but you never know. There are lots of records on the east coast of North America.
Lappkrabben
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Looking at the blog-pics it's obvious it's not a clear pintail.
It's not that uncommon that blue-winged teal and showler mate so this might be how a female of that pair could look like (??), but i can't see any showler bill on this one so it's nothing i would bet money on.
Hybrids are often subjects to never-ending debates so i'll throw in the towel here ;-)
It's not that uncommon that blue-winged teal and showler mate so this might be how a female of that pair could look like (??), but i can't see any showler bill on this one so it's nothing i would bet money on.
Hybrids are often subjects to never-ending debates so i'll throw in the towel here ;-)
nickderry
C'est pas ma faute, je suis anglais.
didn't even think about Cinnamon teal - yes, I agree with Smiths - the face pattern isn't bold enough for a BW, and is lacking the white 'eyelids'. Also the pinky patches on the sides of the bill are better fro cinnamon, as is the generally rusty colour of the bird.
peterarras
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Hi,
it's a Cinnamon teal female indeed.
Cheers
Peter.
it's a Cinnamon teal female indeed.
Cheers
Peter.
Especially immature Cinnamon Teals (and other immature dabbling ducks) may show some dark spotting on a paler backbround on the bill, but I can't find pictures of Cinnamon Teals with such strong orange patches on the bill. Here's one with weak yellowish patches:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chickadeetrails/3477425151/sizes/l/
The picture of a juvenile Cinnamon Teal in Sibley's guide does show rather broadly orange sides to the bill, but it is of course only a painting.
I believe that the colouration of the median and lesser upperwing coverts doesn't fit Cinnamon Teal. At least even juvenile female Blue-winged Teals (and of course also other age classes) have bluish median and lesser coverts, like this one:
http://www2.ups.edu/biology/museum/BWTEwing21772.jpg
As Cinnamon Teal is generally so similar to Blue-winged Teal, I believe that also even juvenile Cinnamon Teals should show bluish median and lesser coverts. The median and lesser coverts on the subject bird seems to have greyish centres with sharply defined pale edges:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4V_nbY82R1k/SthMWFMcxYI/AAAAAAAACFg/YOgQV0y2WEs/s1600-h/Anas3.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chickadeetrails/3477425151/sizes/l/
The picture of a juvenile Cinnamon Teal in Sibley's guide does show rather broadly orange sides to the bill, but it is of course only a painting.
I believe that the colouration of the median and lesser upperwing coverts doesn't fit Cinnamon Teal. At least even juvenile female Blue-winged Teals (and of course also other age classes) have bluish median and lesser coverts, like this one:
http://www2.ups.edu/biology/museum/BWTEwing21772.jpg
As Cinnamon Teal is generally so similar to Blue-winged Teal, I believe that also even juvenile Cinnamon Teals should show bluish median and lesser coverts. The median and lesser coverts on the subject bird seems to have greyish centres with sharply defined pale edges:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4V_nbY82R1k/SthMWFMcxYI/AAAAAAAACFg/YOgQV0y2WEs/s1600-h/Anas3.jpg
Good point, though the blue wing patch may be less extensive in some immature females:
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/birds/duckplum/bwciteal.htm
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