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Hello Folks,
I thought it might be a good idea to continue the thread theme begun by Mark Andews last Autumn i.e recording the birds passing through the area with particular reference to the cranes (hopefully). I'm here until 12th Nov and as things stand there are a team of three Dutch birders and one other Brit so I'll update you with their sightings after I've spoken to them. Last year was an incredible spectacle with cranes passing through in big numbers so we would be fortunate if we had a repeat but we'll do our best. The weather last night brought high winds and heavy rain but today was craneless. Migration seemed non existant and birds on the ground were hard to find. Best we could manage today: Saker 1 Bean Geese 4 Ruddy Shelduck 1 Rustic Buntings 40+ Yellow-throated Bunting 100+ More to follow. Frank ![]() |
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Look forward to hearing more, but...please keep off the Sprite!!
Cheers, Paul |
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Weather forecast for Beidaihe tomorrow is F4-5 winds from NE with temps not exceeding 7C but considerably colder not much further north of here. Hopefully this might tempt some of the c.500 Siberian Cranes that have been resting up for the last two days 400kms above us to push on further south.
All to play for tomorrow. Frank |
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Some forecasts still calling for snow too, though that seems surprising - so do bundle up well! Best of luck to you guys.
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Frank,
How do you know the whereabouts of the c.500 Siberian Cranes?? Cheers, Paul |
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Cold NE F3-4 winds made things tough once again on the sandflats. In terms of cranes both teams drew a blank i.e those in the tower on the Lotus Hills and those on the sand flats. The good news is that our contact(s) now report there are 600 Siberian Cranes to the north. We just need something to make them move. Fingers crossed.
Early morning highlights on the sandflats: Mongolian Lark - one Lapland Bunting - a few passing over and a couple grounded Water Pipit (Blakistoni) - at least three. Buff-bellied Pipit - 3-4 Skylark - several inc. exhausted migrants (also in the reservoir area) Also Pallas's Buntings, Chinese Penduline Tits, Elegant (Yellow-throated) Bunting, Japanese Quail (1), Spotted Redshank, Far-eastern and Eurasian Curlew, Grey Plover, Dunlin, Kentish Plover plus numerous Black-tailed, Common, Vega/Mongolian Gulls. The reservoir area held good numbers of buntings inc. Rustic, Pallas's, Little, Elegant, Black-faced, Tristram's. Plus Chinese Grey Shrike, Goshawk, Eastern Buzzard and five Dusky Thrush, a handful of Bluetails and a Baillon's Crake. Highlights thus far from the Res. itself: Baer's Pochard - an eclipse male and a female present for at least three days although not sure about today. Sadly an increasingly difficult species to catch up and a very welcome bonus. Baikal Teal - at least two. Falcated Duck - minimum 15 noted. Despite a lull in migration, for the last few days at least, things picked up considerably today and as you can see from the list above there's been plenty to keep us occupied. If I've missed anything obvious off I'll add it later. I've still to obtain the 'early' crane reports. Cheers for now. Frank ![]() |
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Glad to see all the other birds that you found. Last weekend Nick (ChinaBirds) said he saw a lot of buntings in the reservoir area. Wishing you better crane days, Gretchen Last edited by Gretchen : Sunday 1st November 2009 at 13:51. Reason: addition |
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As promised here are the Dutch teams crane figures:
27 Oct - Sand Flats 1600 - 1725hrs Common 20, 10, 50 Japanese 68 28 Oct - zero cranes 29 Oct - Lotus Hills 1315hrs 20-25 Hooded 1415hrs 9 Siberian inc. 1juv; 31 Hooded and 3 Demoiselle; 2 Japanese. No more recorded by Dutch or British teams up to and including 1st Nov. I'll post todays [2nd Nov] highlights after our evening meal. Frank: ![]() |
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As Gretchen mentioned there was six inches of snow in Beijing overnight so it was no surprise to find the ground frozen on the sandflats today after a bitterly cold evening. Combined with a F4-5 SW there was a considerable wind chill factor and no matter how I tried I couldn't seem to find shelter wherever I stood at the windmill down on the flats.
Numereous planes had been grounded at Beijing but in Beidaihe there were clear blue skies with sunshine and the cranes took advantage of the conditions... but we had to wait until pretty late in the day to witness it. It was well worth it, however, as most went directly overhead in excellent light giving superb views and with many calling as they continued south in the fading light. COMMON CRANE 1510 6 adults 1545-1600 10 inc. 4 juv 1615 14 1620-1635 27 inc. 9 juv 1645 35 1650-1705 13 inc. 5 juv SIBERIAN CRANE 1650 39 Bean Goose - 23 Ruddy Shelduck - 27 Other Highlights: Siberian Accentor - 6+ Hen Harrier - male and ringtail Great Bittern - one Baillon's Crake - one showing superbly at the res. Chinese [grey] Shrike - one Chinese Grosbeak - one Godlewski's Bunting - three at the res. Increasing numbers of buntings to look through but no new species added for the trip. Still three Water Pipits on the flats plus several Buff-bellied passing over. Not sure what tomorrows forecast is but the chances would appear to be good for more cranes. Frank ![]() P.S Any bird news from the Qinhuangdao area Gretchen? |
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Unfortunately meetings and paperwork most of the day - only a few sparrows seen. I tried to remember to look out the window a few times to see if anything bigger was flying - but not enough to be effective! The forecast for me is for much the same for the next 2 days.
Accuweather says clear, high winds west/southwest, and temps up to mid 50's - not sure what the birds will think of that southwest wind, if that happens. It was a beautiful day for them today though... Hope you got your feet warm after a couple very chilly days. Thanks for the detailed counts!! |
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The winds blew WSW F4-5 which meant it was still quite cold but considerably warmer than of late and if you could bird in the lee then it actually felt warm. It also meant that pollution levels were high and that Qinhuangdao and the ships berthed offshore were no longer visible.
Began with my early morning visit to the flats. Nothing unusual but increased signs of migration: Great Bittern, 2 Carrion Crow, 11 Ruddy Shelduck, couple of Eastern Buzzards and an assortment of buntings overhead all moving quickly inland. I headed to the Res. as the Dutch team arrived and they had a good selection including White-winged Scoter, Slavonian Grebe, Long-tailed Duck and a Great Bustard heading north low along the flats. Another bustard that I've missed out on. My China bogey bird. The res. held lots of buntings: Rustics mainly but also many Elegant and the odd Black-faced and Pallas's seemed to be everywhere. I watched the Chinese Shrike pounce on an unfortunate Brambling before devouring it and the Godlewski's Bunts were still hanging on. A team of five of us spent five hours at the windmill on the sandflats to last light but no cranes came our way. In fact the only cranes seen were 5 Red-crowned at 0855 heading south low over the rear of the reservoir. It'll all kick-off tomorrow. Frank ![]() |
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Considerably warmer today which meant birding was quite pleasant. Continued WSW or SW winds (three days), however, have brought with them increasingly high pollution levels. Instead of birding in what should have been clear blue skies as far as the eye could see we had to endure a reduction of 90% in visibility.
A Chinese photographer noted a flock of c.50 Siberian Cranes at 0745 heading south very low close to the Lotus Hills. He attempted to follow them in his car as they negotiated the early morning mist and managed two or three shots of them. Despite teams on the sandflats and the Lotus Hills the were no further reports of cranes during the afternoon. The new moon has brought high tides to the sandflats in the morning giving good opportunities to look through the c.2500 gulls. The pick of the bunch was a fist winter Saunder's Gull. Those braving it out to the end of play on the flats were rewarded with a second Saunder's Gull, this time an adult winter cose to the windmill at 1700hrs. Reports from the res. area were pretty much as previous days and the early morning saw a rush of Lapland Buntings inland with a few hanging around the flats also. We could do with a change in the wind direction to clear the skies. Here's hoping. More tomorrow. Frank ![]() |
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Hi Paul,
Much happening in good old Orkney? Frank |
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Well, some people here are happy about our warm spell, but it's not great for you guys looking for migrants! Hopefully they're wrong, but Accuweather says the drop in temps and wind from the north won't come until Sat. night. Still, I see that you'll be around another week, so hopefully you will still enjoy more cold weather (that sounds funny). Hope that some good birds who enjoy the warm turn up for you today!
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A couple of hours at the res. produced a Chinese Pond Heron, still good numbers of buntings and 4-5 Daurian Redstarts. By midday at the flats the visibility was poor, worse than yesterday in fact. There is a major problem here with pollution being blown up from the SW - far worse than I have ever known it. I actually felt ill (still do at 1930 hrs) and nearly gave up but stayed on (probably shouldn't have) until 1700. NO CRANES here or in the Lotus Hills but we could easily be missing them in these conditions. The pine trees at the Lotus Hills are showing just one generation of needle whereas I'm reliably informed there should be four. Probably a result of the pollution and probably destined to die prematurely. Makes you wonder what is happening to the tiaga forests to the north! Thanks for the weather update Gretchen. We were all wrapped up earlier in the week to protect ourselves from the cold NE winds but I'd give anything to have them back... sooner rather than later please. So what began on a positive note ended with a sickly, grey, smelly smog. Just had a very nice evening meal, however, and there's always tomorrow to look forward to. They'll be here in droves soon... please. More tomorrow. Frank ![]() |
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Yes, hoping that droves will come and you will see them! I'm impressed by how you've been getting interesting sightings despite less than ideal conditions.
I am hearing the ships horns bellowing because of the fog right now, and thought the day looked really tough - low visibility. Still saying there will be wind coming through tomorrow night. Hope you have managed to continue seeing good birds and enjoying them. Tomorrow is supposed to be the last warm day until March or so I think... cheers, Gretchen |
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Still conditions, mild temperatures and a high tide resulted in a misty start at the sandflats. Unfortunately it remained pretty much the same all day thus visibility was poor - probably no more than 800m. The pollution, though still evident was less problematic than yesterday thankfully.
Another day without cranes but hardly surprising really. The forecast says one more day of SW winds and then it moves to the N quarter accompanied by strong winds and low temperatures. Add in the wind chill factor and it could get interesting. Buntings were on the move today with rustics overhead and on the flats in good numbers. Siberian Accentors were vocal, as was a group of Vinous-throated Parrotbills that turned up alongside the Pallas's Buntings, a lone Japanese Bunting, single Common Reed, numerous Chinese Penduline Tits and at least three Fan-tailed Warblers. Instead of heading to the Reservoir, just for a change of scenery I had a walk through the grounds of the Dongshan and Friendship Hotels: single Bluetail and Siberian Accentor, Pallas's and Yellow-browed Warblers, several Goldcrests and a party of Yellow-bellied Tits were the pick. Spent the rest of the time looking at gulls, pipits and wagtails without turning up anything new. Several oiled birds around: Black-headed Gull, Great-crested Grebe and now a White-winged Scoter. Just been told I have to switch hotels tomorrow. Carrying out some work to the Beidaihe International Club Hotel. Could have done without that but never mind That's all for now. Frank ![]() |
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Switched Hotel when birding finished yesterday evening so no post. Left the conveniently located Beidaihe Inter'l Club - you walk out of the door to the reservoir and/or the sandflats - and took up residence at the Seaside Gardens 4* Hotel. Located centrally in Beidaihe so a taxi is needed but it's pretty good.
Weather much the same 7th Nov. SW with poor visibilty so no cranes noted. Highlights: Pallas's Reed Bunting - numerous. Japanese Reed Bunting - 2-3. Rustic Bunting - numerous. Yellow-throated Bunting - numerous. Black-faced Bunting - 1-2 Little Bunting - 2-3 Tristram' Bunting - 1-2 Godlewski's Bunting - 1 Siberian Accentor - 10+ Dusky Warbler - 1-2 Pallas's Warbler - 2-3 Fan-tailed Warbler - 2-3 Vinous-throated Parrotbill - 20+ Chinese Grosbeak - 1 Water Pipit (blakistoni) 4-5 Dusky Thrush - 2 Naumann's Thrush - 1 Siberian Bush Warbler - 1 heard at res. Chinese Penduline Tit - several. Olive-backed Pipit - 1 Falcated Duck - 2 Mandarin Duck - 14 min. inc 2 drakes. Eastern Buzzard - 1 Grey-capped Pygmy Woodpecker - 1-2 Far-eastern Curlew - 1 Eurasian Curlew (orientalis) - 1 Black-tailed Gull Vega Gull Mongolian Gull Lots of other birds to enjoy as well as the above so plenty to occupy the mind. Frank ![]() |
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Sunday 8th November.
Wind had shifted to NE F6-7 but temperatures were still okay so even with the full force in your face it was bearable. Visibilty was greatly improved. I could actually see Qinhuangdao for the first time in a week although it was hazy but I couldn't make out the mountains behind. I could also see the slightly misty Lotus Hills with the Watch Tower peeking out, plus I was able to count the ships again although todays total of just 16 fell well short of my record 61 berthed close offshore earlier in the trip. I felt I must be in with a chance of cranes today but last year on a NE many used the wind to skirt the edge of bay well out to sea often coming in behind the highpoint of Pigeon Nest Park very high and so were easy to overlook. Aware of this I kept checking all directions from 1130 onwards but alas no cranes today. I have not been able to get an update from the stop over point 400kms north of Beidaihe for a few days so I'm not sure what the score is there but I do know that much further north 2000 Siberian Cranes are on the move. Unfortunately it will take a least three or four days for them to get anywhere near Beidaihe so I'll be gone when they pass through. I also got a report that two ot three days ago several Siberian and Hooded Cranes passed through to the south of us - about 90 mins drive south of Beidaihe, but no numbers were mentioned. Right place right time I think. Todays birds were much as yesterdays but here are some selected highlights: Baikal Teal - 3 inc. a single drake at the res. Mandarin Duck - female at res. Falcated Duck - one min. at res. Todays very high tide and reasonable viewing meant I could estimate the gulls present on the flats: c.3000 Pick of the bunch: Heuglin's Gull - at least 2 adult winter Taimyrensis types. These were both very striking birds and stood out from the crowd. Another very enjoyable days birding but it would have been nice to have seen a crane or two. Tomorrow? Cheers for now. Frank ![]() |
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Hey Frank,
What a nice surprise to come home to (just returned from Ladakh), congrats for keeping the work going, though does appear harder than last year, in fact the last three ![]() The Baer's are good news and a welcome bonus! We'll be back in force next year!!! Mark |
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Yes it's much tougher but still plenty to enjoy. Just got up and the wind is howling and it appears overcast so we'll see what happens today. Yes the Baer's were an unexpected surprise although I have seen them at HI in the distant past. Ladakh' I'm sure was very interesting. Did you manage SL? Cheers Frank ![]() |
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Try Pegasus Lake??
Hi Frank:
Good to see the bird news; tho cranes indeed very late. Major bummer re the severe pollution; Mark told me of this - even of hearing cranes but being unable to see them in smog. We'd thought the air dirty in late 80s - mountains could be lost in murk on some days, but nothing like you n Mark describe. I know you've about no time left at Beidaihe, but while things slack, wonder about heading someplace to look for resting cranes etc. Of course, Qilihai to south is good. But Tian Ma Hu - Heaven Horse Lake, or Pegasus Lake, to west of town could be well worth a go. I went for first time in May; thought it an excellent spot, with extensive damp grassland by a reservoir, at foot of hills. Could be a significant stopover I think. I've suggested a Crane and Stork Festival for next autumn; Mark interested, and Jean Wang to mention to local govt. Could interest some of the growing band of bird photographers in and around Beidaihe - tho of course, need cranes too! Seems it could be hard to pick optimum dates. Almost lucky for the Sibes they haven't gone by in numbers, as I've seen photo of Poyang with large expanse of dried, cracked mud. Martin |
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I'd forgotten, but I heard second-hand of a Chinese birder going to that lake to photograph cranes in spring too.
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Hi Frank,
Having had a closer look now, there does seem to be some rather worrying gaps! I assume Mr Diao at the LH has been on duty since the beginning of October, any news from earlier in the month? There appears to be no sightings of Oriental Stork so far this year? Considering that the world pop passes through, have part of this group, the first wave passed through before your arrival, off the top of my head 27th Oct in previous years was around the first wave. No sightings of White-naped Crane mentioned, traditionally the earliest of the movers? Are you aging the Red-crowned or are the conditions/visibility hindering this process this year, remember last year, evidence suggested a very good breeding year. Very few Siberian Crane juveniles mentioned, as above or mostly adults powering through, as usual, not needing to teach juv's the route? The 07.45 Siberian Cranes on the 4th would again suggest that there is a staging post just to the west of Qinhuangdao,remember we've seen Storks and Cranes rising before from this area. I can't see how they could clear the Jiaoshan Mountain this early and unfortunately, we couldn't do proper counts and risk investigating the area during our previous periods. As Martin suggests, Tian Ma Hu could be worth a visit as could the military area JW knows about. Qiliha was the driest I've ever seen it this Spring, so unless they had some decent rain this year, doubtful, it is probably on a severe decline. Anybody on HI? This area needs to be monitored in future, maybe next year with an FXM team? Without appearing to take the P, how much time are you spending at the watchpoint ? I know it's difficult when it's very quiet, but remember many cranes are now passing across the bay and will remain unheard and probably unseen from the road inwards. It seems an astonishingly slow year compared with the last three. I have a couple of 'big-players' interested in getting involved next year, timing is going to be difficult but it has to be done. Maybe finally, we could put that rather dreadful Birdwatching Centre to good use - I see what you mean Martin, a wasted opportunity again and one we should perhaps forcefully suggest to put right! Two/three days left Frank? Got to be the prime time to finally see the Bustards surely? Suggest Sandflats bridge early, when they are likely to be kicked off the fields to the north, otherwise a visit to specsavers ![]() And yes, Ladakh awesome... No Black-necked Crane (they were in a sensitive area) but I did see two Snow Leopard ![]() Martin, disastrous news about Poyang, are things likely to improve? If not, they'll be better off staying in the north! Be in touch shortly. M. Last edited by rockfowl : Monday 9th November 2009 at 12:30. |
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Mark, when I was up at the watchtower on Lotus Hills on 10/10, I had a nice chat with the watchman at the top who said Mr. Diao hadn't been around yet this season and wouldn't be until late Oct. Li Ming said they were up there on 10/24 and hadn't seen him either. Don't know if anyone has seen him in the time since then ...
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