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Has Birding World Folded? (1 Viewer)
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stonechat1
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That´s YOUR explanation.
Their is that there are nowaydays very good FG´s on the market and also very good informations in the web, so that a magazine for field orntihology isn´t needed longer.
Just to keep it correct.
There are of course developments too ... for example, Cloudbirders an excellent trip report site. A single good online European rarity website would be a good development, this would effectively negate the loss of Netfugl.
Photo and art, well Bird Forum is a good showcase on various threads, perhaps not as good as in print, but certainly more accessible.
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Helder Cardoso
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Sad news, i will miss that monthly expectation in the mailbox...
Have to agree here, a magazine with 'esoteric places like some remote siberian islands' is as likely to readers as lose them, I'd say. Well, with me, it would.
Dawn Balmer
Well-known member
British Birds are advertising an excellent offer for Birding World subscribers who do not currently take BB. Please take a look and tell your friends.
http://www.britishbirds.co.uk/artic...british-birds-annual-subscription-for-just-25
http://www.britishbirds.co.uk/artic...british-birds-annual-subscription-for-just-25
West End Birder
Well-known member
BF is next ;-)
I will certainly be taking up that offer as soon as I get some pennies off customers, I subscribed to BB from 84-89 then BW came out & I couldn't afford them both so BW it was as it was upto date news & not historical as in BB in the eighties.
Mike.
Richard Klim
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I'm tempted to cancel my BB subscription and resubscribe as Dick Milk...
Docmartin
Thought Police
I'm tempted to cancel my BB subscription and resubscribe as Dick Milk...
Haha I'm sure you're not the only one that this has occurred to! I'm only 'editorial' side of BB, not involved in the subs etc, but at BB Towers we (most of us BW subscribers) do genuinely regret the loss of BW – we enjoyed reading it and it's in everyone's interests to have a diverse, competitive birding magazine sector. BB certainly doesn't want to be seen to be picking over the bones of BW and we certainly don't want to annoy our established subscribers. But at the same time, we know there is a cohort of BW subscribers who will not have seen BB recently (or ever) - we believe that BB has something to offer them, and would welcome them into BB membership.
BB is owned by a charitable trust and supports conservation work and related good causes such as encouraging young birders. This is only possible because of the strength of its subscriber base and the strong recovery from the dark days of the mid-90s. Increasing the subscriber base further benefits all BB readers in terms of the quality of the magazine and the conservation grants that the charity can support.
Paul Chapman
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Jos
Of course the difficulty with Internet resources is that they are often temporary. Whilst cloudbirder is excellent, the loss of travellingbirder was tragic. I dug out a trip report of mine from five years ago and link after link to Internet resources no longer worked.
Two friends ran local websites - one on birds and one on moths - and both have now ceased after building up as valuable local repositories of records.
Indeed my computer at home has now died and although I would hope and expect to recover the contents, at the moment it feels like I'd put my entire library in my car boot and had the car stolen after I'd left the keys in and nipped into the local post office.
All the best
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AlfArbuthnot
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Can I register a plea not to try attacting BW readers by filling more pages of BB with rarity reports and photos that everyone has already seen online weeks before, or that are already printed in Birdwatch?! The current rarity round-ups in BB is already old news by the time most people see it, and a full issue each year is given over to documenting rarities for posterity. In the interests of diversity, I'd be quite happy to see the BB monthly rarity reports dropped completely - in this day and age they're not very useful/original.
TwoDipsfromAmsterdam
Anything About?
I would echo Alf's comments on the "Recent reports" section. The Internet and other digital communications really have rendered it more or less superfluous - despite the fact that some of the accompanying photographs are excellent. But it's always "old news", which perhaps it was even back in pre-Internet days.
David
TwoDipsfromAmsterdam
Anything About?
What about those who don't spend hours glued to whatever you watch? I for one don't buy Birdwatch, and if Birding World did go down the e-zine route, then they can forget my subscription.
AlfArbuthnot
Well-known member
The point is that rarity summaries are available elsewhere, more quickly, and more comprehensively. For example BirdGuides' free weekly email newsletter. Or someone could just stand in WH Smiths and have a 20 second flick through the reports in Birdwatch if they really wanted. BB could use the pages for different (unique) content, which doesn't duplicate what's done better by other outlets. The rarity reports in BB don't work as either current news or a documentary record these days. They could have some more notes, letters or short papers in those pages.
I could do without a columnist or opinion piece though! I like BB-eye and the editorials, which is just enough, but I have stopped taking British Wildlife after the pages became saturated with the unbalanced opinions of columnists, even leaking into the 'news'. Readers should be trusted to think for themselves. If they want endless rant and chunterings then they can read the many blogs out there.
Dawn Balmer
Well-known member
Thanks AlfArbuthnot and TwoDipsfromAmsterdam for your comments about BB content. Speaking as a member of BB Editorial Board, there are no plans to expand 'Recent reports' following the sad demise of Birding World. I've been taking BW since 1990 and have enjoyed the monthly summary of rare and scarce birds (though I don't get to see many of them these days!) but I agree it's not for BB to take this element on.
Paul Chapman
Well-known member
I had read the last copy before noticing the front cover this morning. I'm now left a little bit concerned. Any interpretations of it out there!
'Black!' 'Black!' ('Johnny Nice Painter - The Fast Show)
I prefer happy endings.
All the best
'Black!' 'Black!' ('Johnny Nice Painter - The Fast Show)
I prefer happy endings.
All the best
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Phil Andrews
It's only Rock and Roller but I like it
I had read the last copy before noticing the front cover this morning. I'm now left a little bit concerned. Any interpretations of it out there!
'Black!' 'Black!' ('The Fast Show)
All the best
Careful Johnny
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