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  1. pbjosh

    The Vanishing Mew Gull

    I believe the name change from Marsh Hawk to Northern Harrier was in the early 80’s. I actually don’t know if the US/CA powers that be ever considered the two species separate prior to 2017. One could chuckle at the idea that the same logic that demands renaming daughters in splits should have...
  2. pbjosh

    The Vanishing Mew Gull

    Again that is the point from an ornithological / scientific perspective and the current debate centers around the fact that there should perhaps be other “whole points” to English names and the committees that assign them. Do you think that the resurrection of Short-billed Gull has genuinely...
  3. pbjosh

    The Vanishing Mew Gull

    I will merely agree to disagree with you. The usage precedents being cited to disrupt the prevailing usage were effectively so old that very very few birders or other users of the English names knew about them before this case came along. Languages evolve, usage changes. Each time this...
  4. pbjosh

    The Vanishing Mew Gull

    I don't recall the timing on the Wren splits, perhaps it was only a year or two before AOS caught up on that. But IOC / BOU recognized the Harrier split for as long as I can recall (I believe IOC since inception). AOS / Clements recognized it in 2017. Prior to that, from a US/Canada english...
  5. pbjosh

    The Vanishing Mew Gull

    Ok that was exactly as I had understood it as well, I had just misunderstood your first comment above - sorry ;) I think this is a good illustration of the difference between common name opinions held by those who are intimately aware with the long term history of usage and common name...
  6. pbjosh

    The Vanishing Mew Gull

    Sorry, can you explain this a bit? I don't see anything about the quote of yours on the link to the Preview of the book. And your link to the CL of NA Birds won't load for me unfortunately. So I can't tell what you're quoting from the author and what is your statement. Sorry for the struggle...
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