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  1. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    This can now be watched on David Lindo's YouTube channel :
  2. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Any change causes instability and confusion -- ain't you admitting this yourself in post #772 above ? Sometimes change is necessary, in other cases not. The fact that (necessary) "change is happening and will continue to happen" can in no way be regarded as legitimating the addition of still...
  3. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    E.g.: The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Birds (The spread of "Orite" in French for this bird is a quite recent thing.)
  4. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    No "Long-tailed Bushtit" haters about ? ;) Or do you just not hear this in Britain at all, these days ? (I can live with "Panure à moustache" in French, although I will definitely call the bird "Mésange" when I meet it in the field. I can't help but finding "Orite à longue queue", literally...
  5. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    These birds already have names, which are being used by millions of people. Unless you can provide a jolly good reason for a change, no choice remains to be made.
  6. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    One name disappeared as the result of a lump indeed. There is no real 'renaming' happening in a split or lump, as the entities that are named in your list before and after the change correspond to different taxonomic concepts. (Even if, to Joe Public, it may seem like the bird in his backyard...
  7. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Sure, the checklist committee must answer to the council, I have no issue with this. Trying once more with other words, because I don't get the feeling from your reply that you understood what I was writing... Facts - Even if they are parts of the same body, the checklist committee, the...
  8. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    So, did the council routinely, since 1886, rule openly over checklist issues against a unanimous opinion of the checklist committee ? Like it or not, the council did impose, by force and in a strikingly undiplomatic way, a radical change in the rules of the game. So far as internal matters were...
  9. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    I find the issue of authority from the point of view of the AOS is a bit intriguing, actually. In a FAQ list, the council explained "the basis of AOS's authority over bird names" by stating that "Since 1886, the AOS and its predecessor, the American Ornithologists’ Union (AOU), have maintained...
  10. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Moorfield I guess he must be turning in his grave right now... (FWIW, I'm pretty sure the colour of the shearwater's feet is the colour of its own skin -- underneath its feathers. This colour is pretty much the standard colour of the skin of any mammal or...
  11. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

  12. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    I never understood this debate... Does anyone really believe that the demand from neo-nazi collectors (which is completely irrational in the first place) would cease, should the beetle be given another name ? It would still be "the beetle that was named after the Führer".
  13. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    They do not inform about history. Why should they ? They do act as tokens, as marks, that show that a history is present behind our knowledge of birds. If you use only purely descriptive names, this history becomes invisible to those who don't know that it exists.
  14. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Did the change really come from a different continent, though ? https://avibase.bsc-eoc.org/species.jsp?avibaseid=E39FD99C0B686D68
  15. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Technically, the comparison was between people who fail to protest (despite disagreeing), and non-Nazi Germans... Note that the last paragraph of Kevin Zimmer's comments, highlighting a comment posted on the Washington Post website, with its wording evidently borrowed from Martin Niemöller's...
  16. l_raty

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_whose_names_are_used_as_units
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