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  1. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Well you added the regular part to the thing. I wouldn't consider vagrants to represent a regular source of gene flow necessarily (obviously depending on the species involved and the regularity of vagrant dispersal leading to breeding They are genetically separate populations so that would...
  2. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    I think both of us commented in prior years that that inconsistency in rulings is not a rare phenomena, even in the same batch of proposals. I wouldn't be surprised if some members themselves have noticed this, as I think there is a fair degree of variance in opinion among the different members...
  3. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Not particularly a surprise, at least for me. The proposal mostly just uses molecular data which the NACC is loathe to consider (sometimes?) Although I would like to point out that the Grayson's/Rufous-backed Robin doesn't seem a whole lot different than the McKay's/Snow Bunting split, which...
  4. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Comments are finally online for last year's AOU proposals: https://americanornithology.org/nacc/current-prior-proposals/2021-proposals/
  5. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Going to make a Newfoundland winter trip just that more enticing, given that Common Gull is a wintering bird most winters IIRC.
  6. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    FYI, I have heard a rumor on the grapevine that AOS accepted the Short-billed Gull/Common Gull split.
  7. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    yes I meant to say no records
  8. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Because there are records of any birds kept by falconers in the area. So we are back to the mysterious cabal of black market Steller's Sea Eagle trade.
  9. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    yep, what he says. Animals that are common in captivity in one place are not necessarily going to be common on another continent.
  10. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Apparently. Folks found the snag, but no one relocated the bird and the only evidence is that single photo, although at least the identification is pretty much indisputable. Apparently OBVIOUS signs of photo manipulation have not been found, but I am still not comfortable with the record...
  11. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    The discussion of the Amazilia record from Panama are fascinating in the context of recent discussion of the Texas Steller's Sea Eagle photo.
  12. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Ahh...the always exciting "SACC alignment" round of proposals :P
  13. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    I don't myself have a problem with the term, just the idea that anyone would think oriental is somehow more politically correct than Japanese. I don't think I have ever heard anyone suggest the term Japanese was somehow problematic (although I HAVE met someone who thinks Mikado Pheasant is).
  14. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    At a regional level, there are not that many checklists that are updated as regularly as the NACC/SACC. Plus, Brits gave up when they decided to no longer make regular taxonomic updates to the BOU checklist. Sorry British birders, but when BOU decided to accede taxonomic authority to IOC, you...
  15. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Japanese is not politically sensitive however. World War 2 ended over 70 years ago, and the Japanese government is a western style democracy and first world country, that isn't oppressing anyone (at least anymore than is happening in every other first world country) at the moment. Japan is a...
  16. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    I've seen Stejneger's Stonechat (while in Japan lol), but don't really care what name they give it. It's not like Stejneger's provides some key bit of identification trivia in its name: At least Japanese provides information on where it can be found geographically. Plus, the bird, outside of...
  17. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    He does have a few writings which come off as sexist nowadays, but otherwise I don't think he has all that many skeletons in his closet, probably less than the average 19th century gentleman of his times.
  18. Mysticete

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Technically there kind of is: I noticed the name Japanese Stonechat proposed, versus the more typical Stejneger's Stonechat. On the other hand, they suggest Darwin's Storm-petrel so it might be down to the preference of the proposal writer.
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