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  1. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Is the Rufous-backed (Grayson's) Thrush rejection a surprise, this old link might suggest so? https://www.birdforum.net/threads/graysons-thrush.314171/#post-4239337
  2. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Tibetan is maximus
  3. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Don't have full access to my files at the moment but I think this is long since adopted by the IOC?
  4. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Did you read the article in my post 68 Jeff? The article makes some very pertinent points and is, IMHO, a representation of what most people actually think. The people who have most issues with various terminologies, seem to be white folk of a particular type who are actually, very small in...
  5. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Although this can be true, I find that when Americans say as much, it's because many of them don't understand our domestic arrangement. Conversely, there are those who are from these shores who will say that they're British rather than English, for their own personal reasons e.g Brexit and...
  6. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    You can say the same about so many words, 'Yank or Yankee' for one, should that be banned too? When Americans refer to English folk as 'Limeys', that's not intended as a compliment either, at this rate, we're going to end up with a compendium of about fify, words we can use!
  7. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    We gave up using English, I'll concede that much.
  8. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    This is honestly, the first time I've heard this about the word 'oriental', madness.
  9. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    No prob John, just pointing out that many people suffered at the hands of the Japanese, not just other Asians.
  10. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Can you tell me how, perhaps I'm naive? Edit: I see now, good Lord, they actually outlawed the word but this article actually throws some common sense at it!! I'll bet that most of the people behind this kind of thing, are actually white...
  11. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Of course, but I've been called a racist and a xenophobe for pointing this out in the past during 'conversations' over the creation of new, non English names.
  12. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    I had been under the impression that it was now 'not' the thing to do anyway, regardless ofthe history of the individual?
  13. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Why just Asia? I had a family member who was worked, tortured and ultimately starved to death in a Japanese prisoner of war camp and I'm far from unique in this. On a less political note, it does seem silly to name anything other, than a genuine endemic species, after any place.
  14. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    1930........?
  15. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    My thoughts exactly!!!
  16. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    I simply wondered why this has been resubmitted at all? Stejneger's is split by the IOC and maurus is under Siberian, not Common Stonechat.
  17. Andy Adcock

    AOU-NACC Proposals 2021

    Nothing controversial I don't think but what development has there been to support this? Reconsider the case to split Saxicola maurus and S. stejnegeri from Common Stonechat S. torquatus
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