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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Like I said to PYRTLE, prove it. The one thing you will NOT read here is him backing up his statement. He did not even state that the IB on a hat was "Sonny Boy," a juvenile that fell out of a nest. My conversation is not ugly, and instead of animosity I prefer directness. And please note that...
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Without reference, your last statement is laughable. Prove it. Here's mine-- the birds have been noted to be wary for over 150 years. These accounts far outweigh any mentions of approachable birds. This comes from the new encyclopedic work by Chris Haney-- "Woody's Last Laugh: How The "Extinct"...
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Yes.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Some IBs have responded to ADKs, but none have approached closely. They're not Magellanics.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    The many accounts of the birds being wary, from the 1800s to the 2000s, far outnumber the accounts of them being approachable. The quickest way to read about all this is Chris Haney's new book Woody's Last Laugh.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    I'm not Mike. I'm John Williams, Long Island NY. If we write at all alike, it's because we're both pragmatic. And we both don't suffer fools at length. You're mistaken. (And you're Pyrtle-- a bit hypocritical, no?)
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Two very astute paragraphs. Then a challenging last sentence. Let me take the high road and presume you're with USFW-- who have the power to decide the last sentence, and perhaps allow more wood-pellet and rice farm change of wild habitat. If there is evidence through each decade from the 1930s...
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Right. So again, for the record, no answer to what I proposed. And the "present they aren't difficult" statement you make is wrong, unstudied, and uninformed. Point made, done here, other things to do.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Yes I did forget motiheal. No big deal, I was off for a while. I'm John Williams, Long Island NY. And you're Patudo. "maybe allow a couple more seconds"-- basically, no. Too many searchers have reported not to be able to do this. Mike Collins was wise when he commented, more than a decade ago...
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Yep, that's what IB specialists will tell you. And they would focus on some words and phrases you used-- "all we have is"-- we actually have more than a bit of evidence since 2000 "give me one clear image"-- it would go through a lot of hands before it got to you, actually "approachable"-- you...
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    You're right that some on Birdforum, for more than a decade, say that since other Campephilus are easy to image, IBs must be. That is obviously a logic mistake. You're right that hunting pressure selected for the more wary birds (proven in other species), and I would add that this can happen...
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Right. So no real answer. If it's not a special case, then with what, where, when, and how? Just spell it out. I can-- let's see if we match. You have forty years of field experience with birds. Where-- where do I go? When? What? What cam? How? In public. Here.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    The simplest answer is that no two species on Earth, even same genus, are alike. There are ten to twenty people alive today that I would name as being either specialists, or experienced with the Ivory-Billed Woodpecker.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    What is your experience or study of the species to know what you are talking about? Saying "it's like any other woodpecker" is weak. You obviously write aggressively, but you overstate, and it's not a problem for me to reveal that.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Can you detail exactly how you would get binoculars on an IB? Where, when, how, with what? Now, further, can you detail exactly how you would get a photographic image? Not any other species, the IB species. What do you know?
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Allow me to flip the question, since you voiced a question and then offered an answer. Can you detail exactly how you would get binoculars on an IB? Where, when, how, with what? Now, further, can you detail exactly how you would get a photographic image? Not any other species, the IB species...
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Thank you! It's a bit early; the system needs more testing. Let me work on it? But I posted a general idea here-- Improved video cam setup for Ivory-Billed Woodpecker
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    There are none on Long Island. I find I can control behavior better, no pun intended, with my wife holding a model.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    It's a size and black-white pattern thing. Around here in the woods, nothing else compares. I will post results. I especially want to try peripheral vision reaction, and then head-turning with FOV. I agree that live birds, in the proper format, are a better test.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    I am planning to test it in that manner, with a lifesize IB cardboard flexible model.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    It builds on the kayak paddle idea, which was an important step. Mike was the first to state that video should be used rather than stills.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Even if you view all the "claims" as only that, it's clear the bird is too fast, far, and rare to get binocs on it easily. I am concerned with the somewhat narrow field of view, but we will see if we can address that somehow. Thanks.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    And by the way, this was Mike Collins' thread. I am just supporting his efforts.
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    Andy-- here is an image taken today, testing a Scopecam Lite, videocam that will run all day on an Anker Power Core 10000mAh, loop recording. Distant stop sign, not close one, is at 226 meters with good resolution. This will be head-mounted and five or more should be deployed this search season...
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    Ivory-billed Woodpecker: takeoffs with deep and rapid flaps + wing noises

    This encyclopedic work (came out this year) explains what you are calling chances-- Amazon.com: Woody’s Last Laugh: How the Extinct Ivory-billed Woodpecker Fools Us into Making 53 Thinking Errors eBook : Haney, James Christopher: Books
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