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Whilst their are detailed records on Wikipedia from the biographies a family website suggest a completely different family supported by birth and baptism certificates.
Parents
Ignacy Joniak/Jaśzcak/Jankowski
1808–1867
Franciszka Lewicka vel Karpińska
1803–
Michał Heronim Jankowski 1842–1912
Birth 25 Sep 1842 • Płock, Mazowieckie, Poland
Death 10 Oct. 1912 Ussuriland
Parents
Ignacy Joniak/Jaśzcak/Jankowski
1808–1867
Franciszka Lewicka vel Karpińska
1803–
Michał Heronim Jankowski 1842–1912
Birth 25 Sep 1842 • Płock, Mazowieckie, Poland
Death 10 Oct. 1912 Ussuriland
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Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
Even if James clearly seems to have accepted the added "Heronim" part/name (in the Key's updated entry):
However, I'm somewhat more hesitant regarding the added Second Given name.
Note that the Polish Instytut De Republica (here) has him as: "Michał Mateusz Jankowski" ... ?!?
Paul, as I couldn't find it anywhere, please add the source/reference where you found the "Heronim" part/name.
Or was it maybe, possibly intended as Hieronim (both versions/names seems to exist in Poland, apparently both Polish forms of Hieronymus) ... ?
Either way, this far, at this point, in my notes and MS I will keep him as nothing but Michał Jankowski (1842–1912).
But, of course, I wouldn't hesitate to alter/expand it, if proof is to be found/shown ...
What the Russian Patronym (alt. patronymical version) of his name would be (after he, during his Russian years, changed/altered his name into its Russian equivalent) I gladly leave in more capable hands (at least this far) ...
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Björn
However, I'm somewhat more hesitant regarding the added Second Given name.
Note that the Polish Instytut De Republica (here) has him as: "Michał Mateusz Jankowski" ... ?!?
Google Translate:
Compare with the dates and locations (as well as parents) given in post #62 ...
Paul, as I couldn't find it anywhere, please add the source/reference where you found the "Heronim" part/name.
Or was it maybe, possibly intended as Hieronim (both versions/names seems to exist in Poland, apparently both Polish forms of Hieronymus) ... ?
Either way, this far, at this point, in my notes and MS I will keep him as nothing but Michał Jankowski (1842–1912).
But, of course, I wouldn't hesitate to alter/expand it, if proof is to be found/shown ...
What the Russian Patronym (alt. patronymical version) of his name would be (after he, during his Russian years, changed/altered his name into its Russian equivalent) I gladly leave in more capable hands (at least this far) ...
🔎
Björn
Some astonishing coincidences here. If Jankowski was indeed exiled in 1863 and married Olga Kuznetsova, from Buryat Kurtukov in 1877 then Michał Heronim Jankowski is NOT our man.
Attached find the Baptism and Marriage certificates of Michał Heronim Jankowski.
Date of baptism: 19 September / 1 October 1842 at 5 p.m.Father: Ignacy Jankowski, residing in Płock, age 36Witnesses: Antoni Kaniewski age 33 and Franciszek Kaszubski age 50, both residing in Płock Place of birth: PłockDate of birth: 25 September 1842 at 7 a.m.Mother: Franciszka nee Lewicka, age 38 Name of child: Michał Hieronim. Godparents: Józef Politowski and Urszula Nowicka
Date of marriage: 3 February 1867 at 6 p.m.Witnesses: Jan Wiśniewski age 31 and Stansisław Maruszewski age 60, both residing in Płock. Groom: Michał Heronim Jankowski, bachelor, born in Płock, son of Ignacy (deceased) and Franciszka nee Lewicka, age 25, residing in Płock – house number 359 Bride: Salomea Rybacka, spinster, born in the village of Krajkowo, parish of Zagroba, daughter of Szymon (deceased) and Marianna nee Smolińska, age 23, residing in Płock – house number 225. The banns were read out 3 times on the 6th, 13th and 20th of JanuaryThe couple declared that there was no pre-nuptial agreement.
The Baptism certificate of Michał Jankowski from the Polish Wikipedia site states: "In the town of Tykocin on the twenty-fifth of September in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty-two at nine o'clock in the morning. A nobleman, Jan Jankowski, a caretaker at the customs chamber of the First Office in Złotoryja, fifty-two years old, residing in Złotoryja, appeared. in the presence of Antoni Waszkiewicz, seventy-seven years old, and Józef Roszko, sixty-three years old, both hospital grandfathers from Tykocin, and showed us a male child born in Złotoryja yesterday at twelve o'clock at midnight from his Noble Wife, Elżbieta née Więckowska, forty years old; to this child at Baptism The saints celebrated today were given the names Michał and Mateusz, and his godparents were: The Honorable Mr. Jan Dobrzański, Clerk of the Customs Chamber of the First Office in Złotorya, and The Honorable Miss Julia Bardolewska. Assisted by: His Excellency Mr. Stanisław Walderowicz and Miss Aniela Bardolewska. This act was read by the Appearing Father and written and signed by Him alone. Both grandfathers cannot write. X Piotr Nowakowski, prob. Tykociński.
Attached find the Baptism and Marriage certificates of Michał Heronim Jankowski.
Date of baptism: 19 September / 1 October 1842 at 5 p.m.Father: Ignacy Jankowski, residing in Płock, age 36Witnesses: Antoni Kaniewski age 33 and Franciszek Kaszubski age 50, both residing in Płock Place of birth: PłockDate of birth: 25 September 1842 at 7 a.m.Mother: Franciszka nee Lewicka, age 38 Name of child: Michał Hieronim. Godparents: Józef Politowski and Urszula Nowicka
Date of marriage: 3 February 1867 at 6 p.m.Witnesses: Jan Wiśniewski age 31 and Stansisław Maruszewski age 60, both residing in Płock. Groom: Michał Heronim Jankowski, bachelor, born in Płock, son of Ignacy (deceased) and Franciszka nee Lewicka, age 25, residing in Płock – house number 359 Bride: Salomea Rybacka, spinster, born in the village of Krajkowo, parish of Zagroba, daughter of Szymon (deceased) and Marianna nee Smolińska, age 23, residing in Płock – house number 225. The banns were read out 3 times on the 6th, 13th and 20th of JanuaryThe couple declared that there was no pre-nuptial agreement.
The Baptism certificate of Michał Jankowski from the Polish Wikipedia site states: "In the town of Tykocin on the twenty-fifth of September in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty-two at nine o'clock in the morning. A nobleman, Jan Jankowski, a caretaker at the customs chamber of the First Office in Złotoryja, fifty-two years old, residing in Złotoryja, appeared. in the presence of Antoni Waszkiewicz, seventy-seven years old, and Józef Roszko, sixty-three years old, both hospital grandfathers from Tykocin, and showed us a male child born in Złotoryja yesterday at twelve o'clock at midnight from his Noble Wife, Elżbieta née Więckowska, forty years old; to this child at Baptism The saints celebrated today were given the names Michał and Mateusz, and his godparents were: The Honorable Mr. Jan Dobrzański, Clerk of the Customs Chamber of the First Office in Złotorya, and The Honorable Miss Julia Bardolewska. Assisted by: His Excellency Mr. Stanisław Walderowicz and Miss Aniela Bardolewska. This act was read by the Appearing Father and written and signed by Him alone. Both grandfathers cannot write. X Piotr Nowakowski, prob. Tykociński.
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l_raty
laurent raty
FWIW, his Russified name as given on Wikipedia (Янковский, Михаил Иванович — Википедия )
Михаи́л Ива́нович (Я́нович) Янко́вский = Mikhail Ivanovich (Yanovich) Yankovskiy
certainly suggests a father called Jan (Russian equivalent : Иван = Ivan) -- not Ignacy.(With a Polish father called Ignacy, the expected patronymic would be Игнацович = Ignatsovich.)
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Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
Thanks guys, much appreciated!
Thus, this far I will keep him as (nothing but) Michał Jankowski (1842–1912).
I'll let you know if I stumble upon any incontestable and fully convincing evidence (or any other incompatible facts).
(though it will take a while, next week I'm going off-BirdForum for a couple of months).
Cheers!
/B
Thus, this far I will keep him as (nothing but) Michał Jankowski (1842–1912).
I'll let you know if I stumble upon any incontestable and fully convincing evidence (or any other incompatible facts).
(though it will take a while, next week I'm going off-BirdForum for a couple of months).
Cheers!
/B
l_raty
laurent raty
I see no very good reasons not to go with Michał Mateusz Jankowski, born 24 Sep 1842 in Złotoryja, based on the baptism certificate on the Polish Wikipedia where the name of his father is consistent with the patronymic he later adopted in Russia.
I was a bit cautious at first, as it could have been conceivable that the Russified name on the Russian Wikipedia page was recently coined and actually based on the same Polish baptism certificate (in which case the consistency would, obviously, be of little value). But he is all over the place as "Михаил Иванович" in Russian sources, including some sources from the 20th C.
I have been trying to find his signature to confirm the patronymic, but without success. However, on this page, we are shown (direct link to the image : https://arseniev.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/-14308-165-Документ-Конверт-для-письма-с-надписью_-сделанной-М.И.-Янковским-Письмо-на-право-пользования-двумя-десятинами-в-Последне_1-e1669019380894.jpg) what appears to be an envelope with a manuscript inscription, which the page presents as being by his hand, and printed with the name/address of his farm : "Конный Заводъ М. И. Янковскаго | Сидеми, Приморской Области." = "Stud Farm of M. I. Yankovskiy | Sidemi, Primorskiy Oblast." (Note "Заводъ", "Янковскаго", as well as the lateral inscription "За неннахожденіемъ адреса прошу бозбратитъ : Ур. Слабянску." : this is spelling from before the 1917 Russian orthographic reform.) This seems to be evidence, from Jankowski's own time, of a patronymic starting with a "И" = "I".
I was a bit cautious at first, as it could have been conceivable that the Russified name on the Russian Wikipedia page was recently coined and actually based on the same Polish baptism certificate (in which case the consistency would, obviously, be of little value). But he is all over the place as "Михаил Иванович" in Russian sources, including some sources from the 20th C.
I have been trying to find his signature to confirm the patronymic, but without success. However, on this page, we are shown (direct link to the image : https://arseniev.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/-14308-165-Документ-Конверт-для-письма-с-надписью_-сделанной-М.И.-Янковским-Письмо-на-право-пользования-двумя-десятинами-в-Последне_1-e1669019380894.jpg) what appears to be an envelope with a manuscript inscription, which the page presents as being by his hand, and printed with the name/address of his farm : "Конный Заводъ М. И. Янковскаго | Сидеми, Приморской Области." = "Stud Farm of M. I. Yankovskiy | Sidemi, Primorskiy Oblast." (Note "Заводъ", "Янковскаго", as well as the lateral inscription "За неннахожденіемъ адреса прошу бозбратитъ : Ур. Слабянску." : this is spelling from before the 1917 Russian orthographic reform.) This seems to be evidence, from Jankowski's own time, of a patronymic starting with a "И" = "I".
l_raty
laurent raty
This will presumably have been on 24 Sep 1842 of the Julian calendar, though. If so : born 6 Oct 1842 of our calendar.
Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
One more (quick) post ... re. the Polish naturalist, and collector, Michał Jankowski (1842–1912), commemorated in Jankowski's Bunting Emberiza jankowskii TACZANOWSKI 1888, a k a Rufous-backed Bunting, [alt. jankowskisparv in Swedish (earlier also written jankovskisparv) – hence my interest (sparv = Sparrow] ...
In Biographies for Birdwatchers, by Mearns & Mearns (Revised and expanded edition, in two volumes, 2022), he's just mentioned briefly, in volume 1, (even if somewhat inconsequent), as nothing but: "Michał Jankowski" (on p.135, in context with "Wiktor Witold Godlewski (1833–1900)", and (slightly different!) as Michal Jankowski [i.e. without the ending (Polish) letter ł ]on p.344, in the same volume. In the latter case in context with "Władisłav [*] Taczanowski (1819–1890)".
Also note that the same Michał Jankowski, according to quite a few sources (incl. Boris Egorov, see Russia Beyond, 18 August 2020, in post #59), while in Russia, amended his name into: Mikhail (Ivanovich, alt. Yanovich) Yankovsky. In other texts (and languages, or transcriptions) he's a k a: Michail Jankowski alt. Michel ditto.
Björn
*In my notes and (Swedish) MS I have Mr Taczanowski as Władysław Taczanowski (1819–1890), in line with how his Given name is written in today's Key. This particular guy, the same Taczanowski, is also known (in various texts, and languages) as; Ladislaus, Vladislav or Ladislas ditto).
In Biographies for Birdwatchers, by Mearns & Mearns (Revised and expanded edition, in two volumes, 2022), he's just mentioned briefly, in volume 1, (even if somewhat inconsequent), as nothing but: "Michał Jankowski" (on p.135, in context with "Wiktor Witold Godlewski (1833–1900)", and (slightly different!) as Michal Jankowski [i.e. without the ending (Polish) letter ł ]on p.344, in the same volume. In the latter case in context with "Władisłav [*] Taczanowski (1819–1890)".
Also note that the same Michał Jankowski, according to quite a few sources (incl. Boris Egorov, see Russia Beyond, 18 August 2020, in post #59), while in Russia, amended his name into: Mikhail (Ivanovich, alt. Yanovich) Yankovsky. In other texts (and languages, or transcriptions) he's a k a: Michail Jankowski alt. Michel ditto.
Björn
*In my notes and (Swedish) MS I have Mr Taczanowski as Władysław Taczanowski (1819–1890), in line with how his Given name is written in today's Key. This particular guy, the same Taczanowski, is also known (in various texts, and languages) as; Ladislaus, Vladislav or Ladislas ditto).
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