4 photos- 3 i.d.s (2 Viewers)

[John D]

hope this has worked, thanks for any help.
JOHN D

 

[CJW]

1) Red Chestnut
2) ?
3) ?
4) Agonopterix arenella

I would hazard a guess at the middle two being variants of the same species, but I haven't a clue what! When and where were they caught John?
Hope you don't mind but I've 'enhanced' the second photo to hopefully enable someone else to i.d. them. I'm completely stumped!

EDIT: I've just realised that you said only 3 for i.d. so 2 & 3 must be one and the same insect. Still none the wiser though. Nearest thing I can come up with is 'The Shears' a notoriously variable species, but to this extent?

 

[John D]

Thanks Chris for the 2 ids, the other moth, was caught in the garden, of a cottage in Capel Curig this week, Wales. The photos are of the same moth, if its of any help there was a small Oak wood behind the cottage.

 

[CJW]

There's a specimen of 'The Shears' in Skinner that looks very similar to this moth (example 3 plate 29) so I'll stick with that. It's still about a month earlier than it should be though!

 

[harry eales]

Hi John D,

I agree with Chris over pics 1 & 4. Photo's 2 & 3 Have me stumped as well. It is very early for the Shears and they are also somewhat similar to several of the 'Brocade' moths. This one was definately one you should have kept a hold of until your local Moth Recorder could have had a look at it. Sorry I can't be more help.

Harry Eales.

 

[ColinD]

Thanks Chris for the 2 ids, the other moth, was caught in the garden, of a cottage in Capel Curig this week, Wales. The photos are of the same moth, if its of any help there was a small Oak wood behind the cottage.

I wonder if the mystery moth might be Glaucous Shears? It occurs a little earlier than the Shears and does occur in Wales.

Colin

 

[John D]

Thanks for all your replies, i'm still unsure of the moths id. Having had a look at some photos on various websites, could it be a Frosted Green.
JOHN D

 

[Angus T]

Never seen a Frosted Green, don't think its been recorded in Ireland yet, but the timing, Oak wood, would be right, and the picture doesn't look too bad either if one ignores the hind wing. and if thiose squares are 5mm, then size would be quite near.
I shall await what others say.

 

[CJW]

Yep. You've got it, it's a Frosted Green. Like a numbnut, I went straight to noctuids. Well done.

 

[Angus T]

Like a numbnut, I went straight to noctuids.

And the rest of us like sheep.

 

[harry eales]

Yep. You've got it, it's a Frosted Green. Like a numbnut, I went straight to noctuids. Well done.

Ouch, my nuts are numb too. It is The Frosted Green. I made the same error as well in going to the Noctuids. Nice looking species, unfortunately it doesn't occur this far north.

Harry Eales.
:eat: That's Humble Pie by the way.