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  1. Farnboro John

    Bears and people

    I still think that this is a casual attitude and hope that whatever happens, there won't be a highly intelligent successor species that looks in wonder and says "can you believe what these ****wits knowingly did?!!!" John
  2. Farnboro John

    Bears and people

    I'm sorry, I put the pre-history thing badly: I meant not long (in planetary terms) before the dawn of recorded history with the first clay tablets. Mass extinction by us is OK because its happened before and the arguments for preserving biodiversity have to relate to human cultural values and...
  3. Farnboro John

    Bears and people

    Yes indeed, which is why I think of our "shaper" business as largely negative. It remains the weight of opinion that the loss of each continent's megafauna was down to humans even before firearms, which makes us pretty undesirable from very early in pre-history. John
  4. Farnboro John

    Bears and people

    Quite possibly true but this is what gives us the increasingly uncomfortable recognition that anthropogenic climate change is negatively affecting our own position let alone that of the rest of the world's species. Are you saying that climate change recognition is misanthropic? Personally I...
  5. Farnboro John

    Bears and people

    Sorry, you think that's a good thing? o_O Bears are part of the ecosystem and their value does not depend on how they change it. We are part of the ecosystem but if any other species on Earth changed our ecosystem as comprehensively and negatively as we do, we'd cull it massively. It's...
  6. Farnboro John

    Bears and people

    What humans need as a species is recognition that its OK for animals to predate them. Each bear is more important to the planet than any of 8,000,000,000 people. John
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