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  1. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    Piano.
  2. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    What does this even mean?
  3. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    Are you proposing a document with a column for EVERY, language? As I said, if there was an active and thriving community of indigenous birders in any country, a dual list might be useful and practical but that's not the reality is it? What you'll get, as I said before, is a small group of...
  4. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    Common, that's the talking point.
  5. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    So what's the problem, maintain the status quo and just start promoting some non white people to achieve parity?
  6. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    Stevie Wonder, Desmond Dekker, Serena Willliams, Pele, why not? Wonder Warbler ;)
  7. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    That piece opens with 'We argue that naming species in honour of a specific person is unjustifiable and out of step with equality and representation.' Discontinuing the practice, should be sufficient without, taking action to remove existing names. If you want balance and representation...
  8. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    You can't do that with a World, list though, the names are intended to be written in English but for the record, I have no issue with listing native names in books etc. I was looking at a field guide a few weeks ago which had I think, three languages in the index. Can't help thinking it's just...
  9. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    As you say over there 'nuff said', I couldn't have put it any better.
  10. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    Why doesn't it? There are plenty of non Americans who bird the Americas, including me and the underlying reasons for the changes are sociopolitical and have a much broader reach than just birding. Also, without checking each species affected, I presume that some are migratory so are not...
  11. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    Precisely, as is the 'we're taking the poll seriously', nonsense. They can decide whatever they want now, I won't ever use any of the new names, never have with things like Longspur, Jaeger or Loon and it will always be a Grey Plover over here I do feel strongly about both the motives for the...
  12. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    Sorry but that's crap. I can easily write that without foaming at the mouth, you infer what is not there and the example you use is factually correct so why should one tip-toe around the isssue? Some of the stuff coming from the other side which involves claims of racism, are most definitely...
  13. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    It seems to me that what some people write, is determined by some others, as being a 'rant', simply it seems for taking an opposing view. How do you infer a 'rant' from the written word, you see no body language or hear the tone of voice? From what I can see on here, something deemed a rant...
  14. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    I did, that's clearly my misunderstanding. I've got well over a thousand books and I was recalling this from memory, albeit, wrongly.
  15. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    I think this is what I had in mind...
  16. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    I thought I'd seen it used in a book title but I may have that wrong, it may have been Northern Central America. Edit: This has me looking on the internet. I'm sure I've seen it somewhere?
  17. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    1. As a 'Midlander', I've always known Oxford to be the Southrn most part of the Midlands 2. Mexico, I've most often seen referred to as 'Southern' North America. Regarding geographic regions, I thought that certainly with continents, the wildlife is indicative. My current home is Cyprus but...
  18. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    Not so much in the modern era where most people will be using the same fieldguide for any, given area.
  19. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    A totally, valid observation and I highlighted it when I think it was Grahame Linehan got cancelled at the Edinburgh Fringe. A statement was made available which said something like 'we pride ourselves on the totally inclusive attitude of our association but this individuals values, do not...
  20. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    What are are 'retcons'?
  21. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    That's changed then.
  22. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    So, taking it seriously yet going ahead, unabated.
  23. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    The reality of all this is that I doubt you'll be seeing any of these changes in a field guide any time soon?
  24. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    https://www.birdforum.net/threads/poll-do-you-agree-or-disagree-with-the-aoss-recent-decision-to-abandon-the-use-of-eponymous-bird-names.447648/page-41#post-4605755 See post 820
  25. Andy Adcock

    Petition to AOS Leadership on the Recent Decision to Change all Eponymous Bird Names

    On the first part, I'd like to think that this is aimed purely, at protecting American history, good or bad, history needs to be available, we learn from history, don't we? What will be gained from taking down a statue or removing a name, I'd argue that if you want to protest the wrongs of the...
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