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  1. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    The AOS always takes a while to release their comments on anything. It shouldn't be a surprise that this isn't different.
  2. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Just to note some additional context on this:
  3. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    I doubt a few small changes like Scott's Oriole or Bachman's Sparrow would have prompted such a law, given such a change wouldn't have made national news and Utah did nothing back when McCown's Longspur was changed.
  4. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Not exactly defending McCown but I still don't understand why he was singled out when figures like Scott and Bachman are also there...
  5. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Honestly another major reason I was am the AOS decision. This was an inevitable outcome.
  6. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Do I disagree with the AOS decision? Yes. Do I think this is a dumb decision on the part of the Utah legislature? Yes. Do I kind of secretly hope this bill passes because it would be hilarious? Yes.
  7. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    The Utah Legislature has passed a bill that would require the state to use bird names as they appeared on the AOS checklist in January 2020: https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2024/03/07/move-change-bird-names-be-more/
  8. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Oh, agreed. But it's a necessary change, as it reflects a change in our understanding of the bird itself.
  9. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Splits and lumps don't actually change a bird's common name. Sure, that's how it seems to a casual birder, but in fact, a split or lump creates a new taxonomic entity that requires a brand new name. It's totally different than a common name change.
  10. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Agreed.
  11. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Not officially, but in practice it has.
  12. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    This claim is really misleading, as at least one of those was a change due to a taxonomic lump, not just being erased "for the hell of it".
  13. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    I thought the original reason that the ABA excluded Mexico was to keep Big Years more competitive with easier to manage numbers? AT the very least, that's the reason the organization claims in the modern day.
  14. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Pretty much any guide to "birds of North America" only includes in Canada, the continental US, and Alaska. Some older guides also include Greenland, and some newer guides also include Hawaii. Mexico and anything south of it are never included in any guide with such a title. To be fair to the...
  15. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    And how does one define a 'nonbirder'?
  16. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    The merge concerns only taxonomy and scientific names. There's a few British common names I can tolerate, but divers and Goosanders are not something I ever want to see on my checklists. ;)
  17. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Yes, but very soon there will only be one taxonomy in eBird to deal with, given the IOC/Clements merge that's going on right now. Someone earlier in this thread (or maybe another one on the same topic? I've lost track) said that they were explicitly told by eBird there will be a period of a few...
  18. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    eBird has apparently gone on record saying this will not happen, which is bizarre, seeing as it would be very easy to implement and I see no reason they shouldn't do it. After all they literally let you pick your spelling of gray/grey right now.
  19. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    The only Hawaiian bird field guides that have ever been published included bird names in both English and Hawaiian whenever available, but all other text is in English only.
  20. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    Which makes it all the more strange that eBird is supposedly refusing to retain eponyms.
  21. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    What on earth is offensive about Maui Parrotbill?
  22. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    My guide in Costa Rica told me Green Honeycreeper is named for the female, which makes sense. The male is kind of greenish but it's really more of a turquoise, whereas the female is a bright emerald green. I had no idea the phalaropes had different common names in the UK. At least here in North...
  23. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    I've thought of 3 - two phalaropes and Green Honeycreeper.
  24. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    The world is not just Wisconsin.
  25. raymie

    Poll - Do you agree or disagree with the AOS's recent decision to abandon the use of eponymous bird names?

    None of those changed hundreds of bird names. I would agree with you if we were talking just a handful of species.
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