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  1. l_raty

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    It's likely that we discussed a few similar case over the years. The case of Myiophila is slightly different, because this name had been made available by Reichenbach in 1850 with an illustration only, without associating any nominal species to it. Reichenbach's illustration quite clearly...
  2. l_raty

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    No. To fix the type of a genus-group name, you need a type designation, i.e., a statement that a given nominal species is the type of this name. Placing a name in the synonymy of another one does not make the type of the former the same as that of the latter (even if you designate a type for the...
  3. l_raty

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    No. (So far as I know.) No, in the Code, a genus is supposed to be based on its type species, not on any description. And its type species must be one of the nominal species cited by an available name and included in it, either in the OD or, if there are no such nominal species in the OD, in...
  4. l_raty

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    I think : Worthy TH, Degrange FJ, Handley WD, Lee MSY. 2017. The evolution of giant flightless birds and novel phylogenetic relationships for extinct fowl (Aves, Galloanseres). R. Soc. Open Sci., 4 (170975): 1-20. https://doi.org/10.1098/rsos.170975
  5. l_raty

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    The traditionally accepted mode of type fixation for many Brissonian names is "by tautonymy" (not one of the two 'flavours' of tautonymy that the Code recognizes, though) : if Brisson denoted one of the species included in a genus by a name identical to that of the genus (e.g., "Sula" in Sula)...
  6. l_raty

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    Basically -- I'm afraid -- yes. Overall, ornithologists have traditionally treated names introduced with included species that were not cited by an available name (i.e., species cited by a non-binominal name (as in the case of Brisson's generic names), species cited by a French vernacular (e.g...
  7. l_raty

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    In this particular case, a designation under the Plenary Powers by the Commission is probably the only viable Code-compliant way to go.
  8. l_raty

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    At least the type is still a sulid. Applying the same logic to some other Brissonian names would be worse -- e.g., under Muscicapa, Brisson cited the following available names in his Supplément d'ornithologie Ornithologie ou Methode contenant la division des oiseaux en ordres, sections, genres...
  9. l_raty

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    "Fou de Bassan" is not a nominal species cited by an available name, it cannot be the type of anything.
  10. l_raty

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    If I apply the Code, I end up with this : Sula Brisson 1760 : t.1 (1760) - Ornithologie, ou, Méthode contenant la division des oiseaux en ordres, sections, genres, especes & leurs variétés - Biodiversity Heritage Library No originally included nominal species cited by an available name. First...
  11. l_raty

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    Dysporus is usually regarded nowadays as a new name for Sula Brisson 1760, which Illiger rejected as one of the “N. g. quae ex graeca vel latina lingua radicem non habent”, on p. XVII of his work : Caroli Illigeri ... Prodromus systematis mammalium et avium - Biodiversity Heritage Library . Thus...
  12. l_raty

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    Thanks Mark. So what we have here is : The book bears no real date of publication. The preface is dated (p. vii : The ornithological guide ... - Biodiversity Heritage Library) "24 September, 1835", which was presumably when it was written. The book includes (The ornithological guide ... -...
  13. l_raty

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    As Sulinae here : https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/34946902 I would date this to 1837 (it appeared in a “List of new books” in the Athenaeum on 14 Jan 1837: The Athenaeum ; it was shortly reviewed in the Lit. Gazette on 28 Jan 1837: Literary Gazette and Journal of Belles Lettres, Arts...
  14. l_raty

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    Redpoll(s) is/are a point of disagreement among the "checklists", so far as I know (BLI recognizes only one species) -- shouldn't the WGAC in principle "reconcile" it ? (Re. the comment : IOC split cabaret in 2017; this was just after NACC had rejected a proposal to lump the redpolls (NACC...
  15. l_raty

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    It's very well known though, and so far as I know universally accepted. (More than 100 genus-group names are available from the text of this work, and links to it have been posted here quite a few times, so I'm not sure how you managed not to have seen it yet.) This is the same thing ...
  16. l_raty

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    Reichenbach 1853 wrote : https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/33272587 https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/33272588 ...where : "Eudytes ILLIGER" is the Genus Eudytes, explicitly attributed to Illiger. "[Eudytes] arcticus (Col. — L.) Ill." is its Species typica, which is here indicated...
  17. l_raty

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    I do not understand this interpretation of Eudytes at all. Illiger included in this genus Colymbus septemtrionalis [sic] L. and C. arcticus L., also citing immer and glacialis in the synonymy of the latter. In 1853, Reichenbach designated Colymbus arcticus L. as the type. What, exactly, makes...
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