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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    That’s why I don’t give much weight at all to the Allbino transmission numbers. They really don’t mean all that much , and I’m not sure how that stat even matters. As long as the glass and coatings are good ,you almost can’t tell the difference between a good 75% (Rangmaster) or an EDG at 89 on...
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    That post just went against everything I thought I knew about DOF, transparency, 3D effect and distance observing, oh and bokeh 🤪✌🏼. I guess this is what Bill Cook always talks about. And did I understand you, that the SFL comes very close to the far better Noctivids 😂🤭.
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    misschien moet dit in de nederlandse taal thread
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Wow, I’d love to do a poll on that.
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Hmm , Tom I don't want to get into a definition dispute, but I don’t think there’s a fine line there. I think the definition changes when you can’t afford the items your buying. As far as need, please Tom don’t go there. We could apply that to almost anything. It’s never about need with luxury...
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Tom I have to say I think it’s much more a passion than an affliction. It might be defined as an affliction if you’re buying stuff you can’t afford. Collecting nice things and enjoying using them and the sheer pleasure of ownership, to me is very rewarding. I’ve never looked at it as an...
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Tom, Gotta have some more to put all those Zeiss and Vortex rifle and pistol scopes that were on sale on sportsman guide and Midway USA 😝
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Well said. And you can never have to many guns 😜✌🏼🙏🏼. Paul
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Good write up Don. I can’t agree more with the Leica color saturation, it’s such a wonderful image. Of course they’re all excellent and very little difference between them, its just the Leica is easier on my eyes. I have the same feeling about Nikons, EDG and MHG’s. I do believe you had a less...
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Exactly, Thank you.
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Hmmm, you made me think again. Maybe we should do a discussion titled, if somebody were to give you a choice for either a free NL or an E2, which would you choose…
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Did I say I preferred 7x35 porros to modern day roofs 🤔. I’d prefer them to some roofs, not the premium options. Nor do I prefer a mid level E2 to a premium SF, NL, EL, Noctivids etc. etc. if I were choosing in the 8x porro class, the SE and Habicht’s would be my first two choices way before...
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Lol, I hear you on the NL. As far as the Ferrari, she must’ve been French 😂✌🏼
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    😂, so you want me to send you the free E2, instead of the NL, correct, that would be your choice? You can’t sell them or trade them , you can only use them. What’s it going to be the , NL832 or the 8x30E2…. 🙏🏼✌🏼👊🏻
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    But apparently lots of people notice Ferraris😂🙏
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Paskman I’ll assume because E2’s are just as good as the premium options, then you and others who agree with you , sure wouldn’t mind paying a lot more for them, being they bring everything except waterproofing and adjustable eye pieces to the table. What would you say would be a fair price for...
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    I don’t know anything about exclusive clubs Henry. I was thinking it might be something like the most expensive , highest quality binoculars money can buy, that many people don’t want to spend the money or don’t have the money and will buy lesser optics and say they’re just as good. And that the...
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    😆Herman are you being glib? You mean to tell me that after a thousand discussions using the term we didn’t know what it meant. 😲☹️🙃. That’s almost as ridiculous as me asking if the Oberwerk is an alpha. 🙏🏼
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Hi Scott , other than the 3D effect and accepting the CA, what other things do you prefer about the E2 over all those other premium alphas you mentioned? Oh, and if the E2 was the same price as the others mentioned , would you still choose the E2 and pay that much? thx Paul
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    🤮I have one word , three letter for Brocks post, WOW! Do other members here believe the Oberwerk ED (aka SE) is an alpha as well?
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Lol, I stand corrected. Is that with the their covers and straps…. You know those Nikon straps,are kind of heavy😛.
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    This is an interesting discussion because we’re using one trait of an optic to completely label it. Here’s a list to think about. Add and subtract as you will 🙏🏼. Habicht’s sharpest in center of all binoculars. Vintage superwides, most 3D effect of all binoculars. Swaro NL’s widest best...
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Dorubird, are you saying that the eye relief on the E2 don’t work with eyeglasses but the Habicht does? A lot of these mId and upper mid level binoculars have great central resolution when measured on a chart, and I’m certainly one for testing specs, but there’s more to the overall image...
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    I don’t really get the calmer thing people describe when it comes to the same magnification of a pair of binoculars. I equate calmness when I’m comparing a 10x to an 8x , or even more calmness in a 7x. Now if we’re talking about some binos of the same magnification known to have globe effect in...
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    The Zeiss SFL 8x30 compared with select current 8x30/8x32 roof binoculars

    Come on Eric you know what I mean. It’s not just the field edge being sharper , the whole FOV is sharper, brighter , better resolution, better transparency and the FOV (sweet spot) is substantially wider because The whole FOV is usable. Your peripheral vision picks up objects in motion even...
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