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    Hi Justin, I apologize; I should have been more specific. I was referring only to specimens of extinct birds collected in the Mascarenes in the 18th century that survive in the Paris museum. I was also incorrect in stating that Sonnerat accompanied Commerson around the world with...
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    Understandable, Justin. The two came to the museum around the same time. Although you and I both referred to the "Sonnerat voyage," he never led a voyage. Pierre Sonnerat was an artist who accompanied the traveler-naturalist Philibert Commerson on Bougainville's circumnavigatory expedition...
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    The Parisian bird was not collected on the Sonnerat voyage. In 1784, Mauduyt recorded that he had seen several Mascarinus mascarinus alive in Paris, and it is probably one of these captives that is preserved in Paris today. The plumage has not only suffered from great age, but was probably also...
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    The several misrepresented traits in Barraband's plate (Barraband was Levaillant's illustrator) indicate it was based on a mounted specimen with faded plumage, rather than a live bird. According to Brisson (who described a bird from life in 1760), and unlike Barraband's bird, the living bird had...
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    Reply to 1st post (originally posted between mb1848's 2 posts, but mistakenly deleted; sorry!): Actually, that painting, published in 1834, is a copy of an earlier painting by Martinet, published in 1779 that accompanied Buffon's description. According to Buffon, there was a specimen in the...
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    It's too bad Kundu et al. (2011) was accepted so uncritically by TiF. The authors (Fig. 3 and p. 8) split up the subspecies of Long-tailed Parakeet, Psittacula longicauda and Red-breasted Parakeet, P.alexandri and: - group longicauda longicauda in a clade with Blue-winged Parakeet, P...
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