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  1. SuperDuty

    Product Review: The Sky Rover Banner Cloud 8 x 42 Binocular

    There’s no question that these are mid tier in appearance and execution, with somewhat questionable QC, what I would like to know, since it’s been insinuated that they’re the optical equal of the Swarovski NL, will somebody do an actual exhaustive and conclusive review/test showing whether...
  2. SuperDuty

    Product Review: The Sky Rover Banner Cloud 8 x 42 Binocular

    I appreciate that. 😀
  3. SuperDuty

    Should I buy ELs now or wait for more new product releases this year?

    No reason a person couldn’t use something from the EL series for the rest of your life without ever wanting for more. IMO
  4. SuperDuty

    Product Review: The Sky Rover Banner Cloud 8 x 42 Binocular

    On my politics comment, I was referring to his Trump reference, on my NL, I’m glad to have them, it’s yet to be seen if a cheap Chinese binocular can match them optically, I don’t think they will, but I could be wrong, if they do, then fine and good, it won’t be the gut wrenching thing some...
  5. SuperDuty

    A noob's view from a Swarovski NL Pure 12x42 and a Kowa Genisis 8.5x44.

    Trying to understand if the view is washed out because of glare or just washed out period. If I look toward the sunset with mine, I see a little bit of glare, but nothing dramatic, I’ve never seen anything through my pair of 12X42 like the mess you’re describing under any circumstance. I also...
  6. SuperDuty

    A noob's view from a Swarovski NL Pure 12x42 and a Kowa Genisis 8.5x44.

    I’m not trying to say anything, I said exactly what I said.
  7. SuperDuty

    Product Review: The Sky Rover Banner Cloud 8 x 42 Binocular

    Keep politics out of it unless you’re willing to hear someone else’s point of view.
  8. SuperDuty

    A noob's view from a Swarovski NL Pure 12x42 and a Kowa Genisis 8.5x44.

    One of you were talking about a poor washed out view in bright sunlight, the other looking over water that had a lot of glare coming off of it ?
  9. SuperDuty

    A noob's view from a Swarovski NL Pure 12x42 and a Kowa Genisis 8.5x44.

    Anyone else with these binoculars having those problems, seems like that’s an individual example that has some major out of the ordinary issues.
  10. SuperDuty

    Product Review: The Sky Rover Banner Cloud 8 x 42 Binocular

    In my mind they don’t need to do that, but the general opinion seems to be that they are either equal to, or nearly equal to the top alpha models, or at least that’s what I think I’m reading.
  11. SuperDuty

    Product Review: The Sky Rover Banner Cloud 8 x 42 Binocular

    I just did a little viewing in some really good conditions with my NL12X42, if the Chinese have figured out how to duplicate that view for under $1000 with the Sky Rover Banner Cloud 12X50, they’ve pulled off quite a miraculous feat.
  12. SuperDuty

    Swarovski NL 8x42 vs Skyrover apo 8x42 sharpness contrast microcontrast etc

    If you’re talking SF compared to NL, that’s something I’ve done firsthand, to my eyes the NL wins that comparison easily, I’ve compared the 8X42 and 10X42 SF against the 8X42 and 12X42 NL, I’m talking optics only, not ergonomics, and yes, it most definitely does matter to me a great deal when...
  13. SuperDuty

    Swarovski NL 8x42 vs Skyrover apo 8x42 sharpness contrast microcontrast etc

    Since we already have this dialogue started, maybe inappropriately in the wrong section, I’ll post this one last thing, anything from now on I’ll post in the Skyrover section.
  14. SuperDuty

    Swarovski NL 8x42 vs Skyrover apo 8x42 sharpness contrast microcontrast etc

    All my questioning is basically being done to try and find out if these really are equal to the NL optically, I don’t foresee my 12X42 going anywhere, but when someone with the stellar reputation of Holger Merlitz says what he said, then I would like to know exactly what he’s getting at, are...
  15. SuperDuty

    Swarovski NL 8x42 vs Skyrover apo 8x42 sharpness contrast microcontrast etc

    I think it was usually toward the bottom, I’m sure winged eyecups would have put a stop to it, but they wouldn’t have worked with my glasses.
  16. SuperDuty

    Swarovski NL 8x42 vs Skyrover apo 8x42 sharpness contrast microcontrast etc

    I had a pair of 10 x 42 SF, I was always bothered by the little bright Ruby red spot I could see anytime the sun was hitting the oculars from behind, they definitely had a superb view, they were very bright, but I prefer the EL/NL contrast and color. A fellow member came to my house last fall...
  17. SuperDuty

    Swarovski NL 8x42 vs Skyrover apo 8x42 sharpness contrast microcontrast etc

    I assume resolution is simply the ability to see fine details, like text or test charts, transparency would seem to have mostly to do with light transmission, contrast, and color rendition, I’m not exactly sure about a lot of the more technical things, I just know what my eyes like, probably the...
  18. SuperDuty

    Swarovski NL 8x42 vs Skyrover apo 8x42 sharpness contrast microcontrast etc

    Based on what you’re saying here, what makes you say in your earlier statement that the NL is much more transparent than the Banner Cloud ?
  19. SuperDuty

    Swarovski NL 8x42 vs Skyrover apo 8x42 sharpness contrast microcontrast etc

    I’d like to see Henry Link compare these to his NL.
  20. SuperDuty

    Product Review: The Sky Rover Banner Cloud 8 x 42 Binocular

    Basically, from what I’ve read in multiple reviews, it seems the general consensus is that the optics in these are at least fully the equal of the EL and NL, not almost, but fully, is that correct ?
  21. SuperDuty

    Swarovski NL 8x42 vs Skyrover apo 8x42 sharpness contrast microcontrast etc

    I find it hard to believe some of what I’ve read about these, but after seeing what Holger Merlitz had to say I’ll keep an open mind, I’d also like to hear more detail from Dennis after seeing a pair firsthand.
  22. SuperDuty

    NL >=50 mm versions?

    I will say though, I was disappointed in the 10X50 SV in comparison to my 10X42 SV, that was back in probably 2015 or 2016, overall I preferred the image of the 42, theoretically that shouldn’t have been the case, I thought they looked more dull, and they definitely had a lot more CA on the...
  23. SuperDuty

    NL >=50 mm versions?

    Makes good sense to me.
  24. SuperDuty

    12x42 NL Pure.....

    It’s kind of hard, for me anyway, to put it into words, I’d say if you can find a place that has a pair you can step outside with would be best. The Roger Vine review probably hits it on the head pretty well, to me they just have a certain glow, a certain brilliance about them that I don’t...
  25. SuperDuty

    NL >=50 mm versions?

    Seems like any top tier 12 power binocular should have a good quality built-in tripod/monopod adapter installed at the factory, a lot of the used 12X42 NL have them installed, I’d say that’s pretty telling.
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