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    Perhaps another game changer

    Always funny when Hermann gets out the crystal ball. What happened to the prediction that IS binos would take over? Another day, another hype. The same people (and I don't mean the reviewers) pushing this bino on both forums. That thing might sell like hot cake but the market is small. And the...
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    Perhaps another game changer

    I almost started questioning my own eyes :LOL: . I used the Fuji HC 8x42 again and in fact -- the ER is not quite sufficient for me. There is still some slight loss of FoV. I might still get one of these Banner Clouds if they become available through a European seller. I am not ordering in China...
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    Perhaps another game changer

    I very much doubt that measurement. Just measured it myself and the lense is recessed about 3 mm -- so the usable ER is 17 mm not 14.5. Not sure what Pinac measured there but it's wrong. Maybe they changed the design.
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    Perhaps another game changer

    There is no confusion. I'm aware of the distinction. But have you looked at the pics on CN and how deeply recessed those lenses are? "Usable" ER between that bino and the Fuji HC 8x42 could never ever be the same. And, yes, 1 mm (from my own measurements it's more like 2 mm) might well make a...
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    Perhaps another game changer

    Anything below ca. 17 to 18 mm doesn't work for me. Yes, that might be out of the norm but it's a deal breaker for the bino for me. The handful of binos that worked for me with glasses so far: Kowa BDII 6.5x32: 17mm ER Kite Cervus HD 8x56: 20mm ER Ddoptics Nighteagle Ergo DX 10x56: 21.5 mm ER...
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    Perhaps another game changer

    The reports on CN about eye relief don't seem too positive. 13 mm from the rim of the eye cups will probably not be enough for me to use with glasses. To quote @dries1:
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    Perhaps another game changer

    I'm guessing that was a rhetorical question :D?
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    Perhaps another game changer

    Because so far every single overhyped China bino proved to be a storm in a waterglass. Besides, the question isn't, could they do it? They question is - could they have done it without some amount of reverse engineering? Could they have done it if someone else hadn't done it before? Because...
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    Perhaps another game changer

    @albie... I fully agree. I'll believe it as soon as there has been some proper testing done. Not some overly enthusiastic first impressions. Still an interesting instrument for the FoV alone.
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    Perhaps another game changer

    He has since received them and written about his first impressions in the thread I linked.
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    Perhaps another game changer

    Member "Milos1977" on CN has also posted about it, since he received his. Seems all rather positive. The price would be more like 500€/$ btw, not 350. And if that bino was made in Europe, my guess would be that it would reach 1,000€ easily. So reaching Meopta Meopro territory. I hadn't planned...
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